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FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:59 pm
by willbreathes
Finals vote!

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:00 pm
by willbreathes
No question in my eyes, '98.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:31 pm
by piper
i dont think either one of these shows belongs here, but if i have to choose, Denver is a better show to me...

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:35 pm
by booztravlr
piper wrote:i dont think either one of these shows belongs here, but if i have to choose, Denver is a better show to me...


Agreed.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:29 pm
by willbreathes
You mean that these are not EVERYBODIES favorite??? OMG SUXORZ.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:58 pm
by Mr. Hiatus
willbreathes wrote:You mean that these are not EVERYBODIES favorite??? OMG SUXORZ.



:lol:


:o


'98 FTW.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:12 pm
by Emmet Grogan
Oh snap. Denver was the best show EVAH. Finally a best-of tournament that reflects the ultimate truth of reality.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:30 pm
by goldenroad
Roses FTW!

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:49 pm
by lowspark
IsLaNd ToUr

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:30 am
by themomadans
Eleven Seventeen Ninetyseven

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:08 am
by Phinst
um, voted for the Island tour show for BEST PHISH SHOW :think: :eh:
:problem:

maybe this thread should be changed to "best phunk jams show"
these are two great shows, but i prefer shows that go beyond the the depths of the phunk.
I'm very :o :shock: :? that it came down to these shows.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:21 pm
by piper
I say we start all over.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:38 pm
by fone
Agreed, I think. Just don't know whether another go round will produce any different results, ie, the "best Phish show". That's like trying to hold the air that you breathe in your hands.

For what it's worth, either one of these could be the best Phish show for all that it matters.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:43 pm
by piper
"best phish show according to 25 or .000005% of phish fan base"

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:37 pm
by lawnboy357
8/20/93 ftw

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:57 pm
by willbreathes
You all sound like you want me to call the amberlamps.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:17 pm
by Phinst
piper wrote:I say we start all over.


fone wrote: Just don't know whether another go round will produce any different results, ie, the "best Phish show".



There were alot of great shows in the tournament, I didn't have any problems with the ones that made it, just not sure how we got to this point.

like before only reg two set shows..all NYE ,Halloween, Festivals, and DENVER SHOWS :wave:
are excluded...

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:55 pm
by Emmet Grogan
Well, I've been joking about this but I do have to say what has been said in all these tournaments. It's a fun way to waste time. No great truth about life will be revealed and this is far from scientific research. You always see the same type of complaints whenever someone makes a Best Of List like Rolling Stones top 100 albums or whatever.

That being said, in the pantheon of Phish fans I'm probably at average to above average enthusiasm/dedication level. I've seen Phish like 75 times and I saw some classic shows... Murat '93, Dayton '97, 12/29/94, Big Birch '94... and some good ineligible ones... Clifford Ball, Went, Halloween '95, Cypress... I've listened to a lot of recorded Phish over the years but I don't feel the need to analyze it all to intensely or really focus on it on a collector level.

And without a doubt Denver '97 was my favorite live Phish experience... I remember it more vividly than any other show including all those Big Ones. I know most of that has to do with me and how I experienced it, but I've got to say, no matter how you criticize it or analyze it, it was fucking awesome.

The complaint I often hear is that it's too repetitive, or too chilled out, but to me it was a real non-stop dance party. It was the most continuously blissful show I ever saw and was in no way boring... it's peaks were plenty intense. The energy was so balanced and perfect. Plus, it's really just the first set that's seems chilled out. It's funny, I haven't listened to this in years... maybe I will.

Denver and 12/7/97 were probably the most "perfect" shows I ever saw.

It seems like the Island Tour show is more popular and I'd be surprised if it doesn't beat out Denver in the end.

If I had my pick of what show best represents the essence of Phish, I'd probably go with 12/30/93, but I'm no expert. :)

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:37 am
by Ship Of Fools
:lol: I knew this thread was going to be full of complaints, but I guess that's to be expected when dealing with a tournament entitled "Best Phish Show Ever".

Island Tour is my answer out of these two. Not my personal favorite show, but I believe that the Island Tour as a whole was some of the best playing Phish ever did. It had all the elements: frantic craziness (Antelope for example), "cowfunk" (lots), and everything in between. I can easily pick out an Island Tour version of something if I hear it because it's so unique. So I don't think it's that much of a travesty that 4.3 made it to the final. It's definitely in my top 5 shows ever.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:01 am
by makisupapete
PHISH ftw!

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:36 pm
by S. Hill 88
the 26 year old question will be answered

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:47 am
by drbadgely
Ship Of Fools wrote:Not my personal favorite show, but I believe that the Island Tour as a whole was some of the best playing Phish ever did. It had all the elements...

^ I read this first, and voted for 4/3/98

viewtopic.php?f=107&p=362200#p362122

I changed my mind after reading Emmet's post ^, and re-voted for 11/17/97.

I begin by saying that the Island Tour altogether goes down as my favorite run of Phish shows EVER.
BUT, 4/3 isn't my favorite, and I've posted or chatted before about how that "Roses" isn't anywhere near my favorite versions of any song Phish has played.

Also, my most consistently favorite Phish years are '93 & '94, so the exclusion of so many shows that I absolutely love from this era, especially up to the Elite 8, were noted. So I end up voting for a tour at first...

Yet in the end, I realize that I have spent many occasions jamming out to 11/17 on my CD's and ipod, loving the opener, loving the jams, the YEM, and the consistency to which everything was played that evening. Phish had say as to what got released in the original LivePhish series. There are other reasons Denver '97 got picked over every other Fall '97 show (Dayton excluded because of its own SBD liberated by them) besides that "Ghost" that Trey so loved...

Out of the final 2, I say Denver.

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:37 am
by jawbone
Happy Birthday Gerard...

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:34 pm
by S. Hill 88
Lets go Denver! One day left!

Re: FINAL: 11/17/1997 Denver VS 04/03/1998 Island Tour

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:29 am
by Ship Of Fools
^ Fuck that, Island Tour FTW!!!