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Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby nugfin » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:38 pm

That's the current rumor floating around other boards....

Talks of no SPAC this summer....maybe Bethel?....maybe Watkins? Who knows, seems to be getting a little late for the planning and announcement of a festival though.

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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby willbreathes » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:41 pm

I'm pretty sure I would not return to SPAC again. Decent venue in a city with not a damn thing to do.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Phinst » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:39 pm

I guess this would back up the talks of no Northerly Island this yr. Possible one night at Wrigley or a night at Alpine with a night or two return to Deer Creek?(yr of superball they tried to book Wrigley, ended up with the small UIC pav run.)

I would also guess only 1 night of Randalls??

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Mpp
Portsmouth
Hartford
Alpahretta
Raleigh or Charlotte
Gorge/ Tahoe- seems to be a every other yr thing.

Would Dick's be off the map with the Glen being after the 9th of August????
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby nugfin » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:22 am

Phinst wrote:Would Dick's be off the map with the Glen being after the 9th of August????


That's what everyone is saying. Considering the fact that Trey said it was going to be a "quieter" year than normal; maybe they will focus all their energy on a big festival and go for a bigger draw with the prospect of fewer dates.

Also saw this:

Town meeting in Watkins Glen tonight (1/8) - Phish will be discussed. As far as I understand it, the ball is in Phish's court, meaning if they want to do it, it will happen.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:35 pm

A fest on the East coast makes a lot of sense this summer. Halloween and NYE were both West coast and the East coast fans are fiending. Skip SPAC, Darian Lake, Canandaigua, JB (Bethal is not happening) and you have a big draw for the fest. Randalls will be 3 days again.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Katiemay » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:27 pm

Is Randall's an automatic lock every year now, after just that one run? I'm not disputing if they'll play there since I have no knowledge otherwise. Wouldn't a 3 night weekend run in NYC potentially draw away from people who may attend a fest at Watkins?

NYE was west coast? The residents of Florida may disagree with that statement.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby jawbone » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:31 pm

Katiemay wrote:
NYE was west coast? The residents of Florida may disagree with that statement.

For people who live in the Northeast, when Phish plays at least 500 miles away from New York, it might as well be considered a world tour.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby nugfin » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:26 am

Recent update.....take it with a grain of salt..

trey with "the dead" at soldier field on july 4th

watkins is 100% 21-23
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Postby Guelah » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:54 pm

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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:58 pm

Katiemay wrote:Is Randall's an automatic lock every year now, after just that one run? I'm not disputing if they'll play there since I have no knowledge otherwise. Wouldn't a 3 night weekend run in NYC potentially draw away from people who may attend a fest at Watkins?

NYE was west coast? The residents of Florida may disagree with that statement.

My bad....I ment NOT in the Northeast.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:00 pm

jawbone wrote:
Katiemay wrote:
NYE was west coast? The residents of Florida may disagree with that statement.

For people who live in the Northeast, when Phish plays at least 500 miles away from New York, it might as well be considered a world tour.


I only remember one person here who seems to bitch about where they don't play....... :wave:
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:24 pm

nugfin wrote:Recent update.....take it with a grain of salt..

trey with "the dead" at soldier field on july 4th

watkins is 100% 21-23


That will work. :thumbup:
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby nugfin » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:41 pm

henrietta wrote:
nugfin wrote:Recent update.....take it with a grain of salt..

trey with "the dead" at soldier field on july 4th

watkins is 100% 21-23


That will work. :thumbup:


Gonna be a crazy lead-up of rumors....

Now Hornsby is on keys for the Dead

People are thinking this show might be part of Clapton's Crossroads Festival....Clapton has said he is done with extensive touring after this year (he is now 70). This might make sense seeing people didn't think the Dead could fill Soldier Field by themselves.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby AsianGirl » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:18 pm

jawbone wrote:For people who live in the Northeast, when Phish plays at least 500 miles away from New York, it might as well be considered a world tour.

I live in the NE and I consider Phish shows more than 500mi from NYC to be an 'away' trip.

World Tour would be if they play across multiple continents during a tour, which Phish has yet to do.

Perhaps Brady's statement can be more accurately rephrased as:
"I think, for people who live in the Northeast ..."
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Phinst » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:33 pm

Wondering how the Summer tour and announcement will pan out. They obviously won't announce tour before the Fest. Will they announce Fest first then tour or both at the same time?? Guesing it will be first week of March.. Also are we gonna get one leg or two.

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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:08 pm

Phinst wrote: They obviously won't announce tour before the Fest.

They announced the tour before Super Ball last time.............
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Phinst » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:02 pm

Yea. I think that was one of the factors in lower attendance. With not knowing if a fest was gonna. Happen or not people. Were spending their money on shows they would of skipped had they.known a fest was going down. Don't think they would do that again. Obviously oversaturation of the NE and being a holiday weekend also
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby henrietta » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:06 pm

Phinst wrote:Yea. I think that was one of the factors in lower attendance. With not knowing if a fest was gonna. Happen or not people. Were spending their money on shows they would of skipped had they.known a fest was going down. Don't think they would do that again. Obviously oversaturation of the NE and being a holiday weekend also

We all knew about SB way in advance......the low numbers were because it was a holiday weekend and they were competing against other fests and family time. They also played a lot in the NE that summer. Phish is not the draw it was back in 2000 and before.
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby nugfin » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:41 pm

DMB at SPAC July 3 & 4 confirmed........
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby hosemasterflex » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 pm

Phinst wrote:Yea. I think that was one of the factors in lower attendance. With not knowing if a fest was gonna. Happen or not people. Were spending their money on shows they would of skipped had they.known a fest was going down. Don't think they would do that again. Obviously oversaturation of the NE and being a holiday weekend also


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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Phinst » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:02 pm

nugfin wrote:DMB at SPAC July 3 & 4 confirmed........


:twisted:

So frustrating how DMB and other bands can scheduule and release summer dates already and we have to wait another 2 months (i know DMB tour starts earlier, but still when other livenation/redlight venues start booking you should know what is available and when.

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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby webephishin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:46 pm

https://m.facebook.com/GratefulMusic. Heres a fb link that posted a pic today of summer tour rumors...

Shows dc > alpine at end of july into august...the list also includes WG 8/21 - 8/23
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby Phinst » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:09 pm

^
Blossom already booked that weekend-Nickleback'd(Could be a different date or Riverbend??)

Charlotte already booked

No NE dates??? Gonna have a few NE dates......Randall's,Hartford???

Colorado is a lock, but not sold on dates, nor venue(RR, Fiddler's Green-DMB is playing their this summer)

No West Coast- Fall'd 2014

Less South- 2 alabama shows last yr, Plus Miami NYE.

**Tour is gonna be built to generate attendance for Fest.

I think this list is somewhat a good outline of what to expect though

webephishin wrote: Heres a fb link that posted a pic today of summer tour rumors...


https://m.facebook.com/GratefulMusic
Noblesville, IN July 30th
Noblesville, IN July 31st
East Troy, WI August 1st
East Troy, WI August 2nd
Cuyahoga Falls, OH August 4th
Burgettstown, PA August 5th
Philadelphia, PA August 7th
Columbia, MD August 8th
Columbia, MD August 9th
Portsmouth, VA August 11th
Portsmouth, VA August 12th
Charlotte, NC August 14th
Alpharetta, GA August 15th
Alpharetta, GA August 16th
Watkins Glen, NY August 21st
Watkins Glen, NY August 22nd
Watkins Glen, NY August 23rd
Commerce City, CO September 4th
Commerce City, CO September 5th
Commerce City, CO September 6th
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby piper » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:17 pm

I though Alpine was closed, no?
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Re: Return to Watkins Glen?

Postby webephishin » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:34 pm

piper wrote:I though Alpine was closed, no?


Last that I knew, Alpine was up for sale. Nowhere did I read that it was actually closed...I havent heard of it being sold yet either.
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