6-16-2009 Fabulous Fox Theatre St.Louis discussion

Phish Live Shows
#507

to touch on three topics if i could…

  1. PT, despite all of the negativity, is still an extremely amusing site to check out. The fights people get in, the pointless “noob vs. jaded vet” war, and the harsh criticism they show, just reminds me of how lucky i am to be on OKP, and not on some garbage-fest such as PT. However for strictly entertainment, and sheer “wow are these kids f’n kidding me?!” value, I do check it out.

  2. I used to like Mr. Miner’s blog, but I’m now starting to see through him as maybe just another type-II-only fan. The guy loves the huge '95 Tweezers (as do i, don’t get me wrong), but it just seems as if he cares more about what they DIDNT do rather than what they DID do (and i feel the same way about PT’s mentality)

  3. Treys laid back style makes me too feel like his heads back in the right place. Once the Pepe le Pew comes out though, shits all over lol :stuck_out_tongue:

#508

Anyone know what’s up with panicstream? Was looking forward to dling last night’s show now that I’m home from work.

#509

I knew they were going to play a mcgrupp…I just had a feeling…

#510

I’m a lil old skool so I’m not hip to all the lingo…What’s a type 2 jam?

#511

http://www.phish.net/faq/jamming.html

#512

Love all your points…

PT is SOOOO FUNNY!!!

Mr. Miner to me is a casual Phish fan that has a blog, If a McGrupp is played and you review that show and don’t mention it AT ALL, you ARE a CASUAL FAN…

AND IF PEPE COMES BACK INTO TREY’S WARDROBE, ITS SOOOOO ON!!!

#513

^or Marvin the Martian.

#514

Trey was lookin’ like Eric Clapton for a while. Fancy Rock Star!

#515

Yes!!! Marvin is old school…But as long as his Clifford Ball outfit does not come back… :wink:

#516

Tape is up…

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=526012

Source:neumann km150 actives(ortf OTS-LOL LOB under balcony)>722 @ 24/48
Transfer:722>cdwave>wavelab 5.0 for dither resample to 16/44.1
Encoded from wav to flac with TLH @ FLAC level 8 and sector boundaries aligned.
Taped and transferred by Mark S.(timberho2001@charter.net)

Funny notes:

“The tapersection was an absolute joke with like 5 tapers and the rest being spun/drunk
idiots that WAAY OVERPAID for their stubhub tickets to not be paying attention to what
the band was doing on stage,these idiots shine quite nicely on the tapes”

#517

From what I have heard, this was a pretty disapointing show sans the Mikes Groove and the McGrupp.

#518

I’ve just listened to the first set and Halley>Jim…

I liked it a lot.

I felt the tour was getting better and better and Knoxville was the absolute peak.

Both shows at Bonnaroo were a bit of a valley, but from what I have heard, I would say St Louis is quickly back up to a peak.

#519

didja hear that on PT?

From what I’ve heard this show is teh dank.

#520

Definitely agree with what Will just posted. Currently listening to the first set now and they’re sounding just as tight as ever. Liked the little pausey intro they did on Ocelot. Still seems like they’re enjoying themselves up there, which is good.

Possum raging right now.

Can’t wait for the McGrupp. Want to skip ahead BADLY. But will not do it.

#521

Also wanted to mention how much I like the song selection in this first set. It looked like it was going to be a bit of a sleeper, IMO, but definitely proving not to be. Pagerson owned that Rift. Owned it.

#522

I’m telling you this right now, tomarrow is going to be the HEAT at Star Lake…Llama??? Sleeper of the tour.

#523

I’ve usually understood and agreed with Mr. Miner’s blog, and I’m certainly a sucker for No Spoilers, although there was one thing he did (I think pre-reunion) that kind of bugged me: he made a compilation of jams with the songs attached to them removed. That kind of seems to emphasize the disregard he has for the songs themselves; I guess it’s all fine to love the jams (I love jams too!) but one of the things that makes Phish special to me is how good the SONGS are. They can make a totally jamless song on a studio album, and it’s still perfect; in fact, as if I hadn’t said this a million times, it was the short studio songs that got me into Phish. Looking at that setlist, I just can’t write this show off as a weak one. I don’t think Phish would, either; remember Hampton, with the jams mostly cut off and the performances focusing more heavily around the songs themselves?

#524

Anyone slowed it down and notice that they seemed to have a slightly different arrangement for that Mcgupp? Page took the lead at the end with a slow build up. This could get real nice when they finally work it out proper.

#525

Oof, that Slave hurt my ears.

#526

Yeah, clearly Mr. Miner is suffering from some sleep deprivation and/or pharmaceutical side effects. How can you not talk about some of the more important bust outs of not only this show but of the entire tour?

That being said, watching the broadcast the other night, I thought this show was going to be TITS (pardon the expression, ladies of the OKP) once the sndbds hit. And certainly the set list is one of the most interesting of the 3.0 era thus far. But once I downloaded and listened, I gotta say it wasn’t as impressive as what I thought it might be.

Don’t get me wrong: I still think it’s a good show with lots of great highlights (Rift, Halley’s Jam, Frankie, MCGRUPP!!!) but some of the playing this night was certainly sloppy, as evidenced in Slave and a few other tunes. I get that they are mortal and are gonna flub things from time to time, I’m not expecting perfect renditions night in and night out. But every now and again, I feel they play a song or a series of songs where they don’t listen to each other as closely as in others, and it’s hard to hide that in the sndbds. So while this show had a fantastic setlist and great energy - or at least a different energy than several other shows Phish has played recently - in the end I’d give this show a B- for the sloppy playing/communication.

I’m now gonna pull out the umbrella to duck outta the criticism and rain that is expected tomorrow in Deer Creek. I’m feeling if it’s a stormy night, a Divided Sky is in order! CAN’T WAIT!!!