Creationism vs. Natural Selection

Where did we come from?

Were my ancient ancestors shit-flinging apes, or should the book of Genesis be interpreted literally?

funny place to ask a question like this

Are you implying that he may get one sided answers that may not lead to a well rounded discussion?

i say maybe a little of both.

haha

Oh, Neil.

There are people writing AI code at the moment that evolves as it learns. Is that natural selection or creationism?

^It’ll be natural selection once the machines take over!

::Looks in phone book for Cyberdyne::

its no wonder white guys got a bad wrap for being not very well endowed.not that i ahve that problem but man that painting just does no justice for the white guy thats all im saying. end rant.

That’s just kind of crazy.

phish creates music that naturally evolves.

i said “evolves” instead of “selects” because it just dosen’t make as much sense to say “phish creates music that naturally selects.” although i bet it would select Country Crock over I Can’t Believe it’s Not Butter. i know i would anyway.

what do you think?

The music doesn’t evolve on its own, it evolves because Phish makes it. Phish creates the music and has control over the evolution of their music. That makes Phish a god.

^yet it’s been said many times by the members of Phish that they do not, in fact, control the music–at least not the improvised portions of it; that in thier experience the music already exists somewhere “out there” and that thier job is just to “get out of the way” so it can come through them. or something along those lines. yet they ARE necessary vessels for the music to be created, or to evolve or whatever.

it’s one’a them thar paradoxicalities.

You and yer fancy book learnins!

Were they ever here at all? And they keep on dancin’…

Profound statement by the Bobby Weir… profound indeedo.

Meaning is all this panorama of the phenomenal perceived objects by the senses truly here or just appear to be here? This is the central theme to Buddhist philosophy which rejects things being truly existent. They are mere projections of mind, totally empty of any true existence whatsoever… but things appear as solid and real. They are empty while appearing… at the same time. Its our mind that makes things solid. Perceives things as created or destroyed. It is like a dream, vivid appearance but no one can find the dream. Such is life… we can never hold on. So nothing was ever created. And things appear to evolve. But its really empty open space in which all things can appear and vanish.

Hows that?

But this is just philosophy and not experience. Just words and not knowledge.

the octopus

it’s as if they are all tapped into the same source, it’s really special when these guys hit that mark where though four people are playing it seems to be coming from one source

not many bands can achieve this on as a consistent basis as Phish did, i think MMW does a pretty good job, tho i liked it more with Sco, that shit was tits

lol at ppl actually voting for creationism

it’s time for sterilization folks

What cracks me up is how creationism and natural selection are NOT mutually exclusive. That’s why it drives me nuts that religious people don’t even want natural selection (which HAS been all-but-proven to happen) to be taught. While we know that animals evolve, scientists have never been able to pinpoint where life started. Whether you believe that all life started with all sorts of amoebas crawling out of some random cesspool, there has never been anything proven about where the cesspool came from.

So in theory, you could say that some sort of God DID create life on Earth. And then go on to say that the small life that put here then evolved into what we are now via natural selection. You could actually vote for both in this poll and not be wrong.

Stevo

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yeah i’ve always wondered why it was impossible to believe that maybe the big bang was “the creation” and evolution is the natural process of it. seems reasonable to me.