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You need to listen to more Fish, man.
but welcome to the board
The more I watch A’s avatar, the more I want to watch the Screech sextape.
…what was this thread about again??
nice post, brah
What the…?
that’s pretty twisted.
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This is a formica table!
Jew-grass?
well, with no Phish to speak of, at least W.A.S.P. is still blowing minds with their Bible Metal.
I heart this thread.
To get back to intll’s post for a moment, are you inferring that Jon Fishman’s performance in this Tweezer is his crowning achievement? If so, I’m afraid I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you along with the rest of the folks here, although they are quite a bit less respectful in their counter opinion.
The band was definitely hot that night and this Tweezer is also one of, if not for now, my favorite version of this song. Be that as it may, I kind of thought Fish was the weakest link out of the four of them during this performance, and for the rest of the set that night.
I’m not a drummer, so you can discount my opinion as you see fit, but listen, for example, to the chaos break at Uncle Ebeneezer. They usually run that section for a measure or two (the exact term is beyond me because I can’t read music, but in most Tweezer’s the timing is pretty consistent, and you know as well as they do how long it typically lasts), with Fish generally providing the lead out of it. Each of the other three bandmembers knew instinctively that it was going a bit longer except for Fish, and he was caught playing the drum lead out while the rest of them continued the chaos.
Now maybe Trey was busting Fish’s balls which is something he loves to do on stage, especially when Fish screws up, and he gave the others a sign to continue, but maybe Fish just wasn’t paying attention to where it was going. I don’t know. But it was kind of obvious that the drums moved out of synchronization with the band at that point.
It was followed, however, by one of the most amazing coordinated moves between Fish and Trey, which actually leads me to believe he did screw up as I said. As the composed section of the songs ends right after the Ebeneezer chaos, the jam begins, and most times the band steps back to see where Trey is going with it. Not this time. Fish was all over Trey’s rhythm, and was right there to meet him the most perfect timing and cow bell touch that just fit perfectly into that jam.
It’s kind of interesting how some of the mis-cues on stage can have a more positive effect upon the music that follows. There was another mistake, and it might have been Trey’s or the other members, in the Bowie that followed. Two thirds through the jam, the three of them start that mechanical pounding sound without Trey, as he continued on the typical swingy style of the Bowie jam.
They returned to the jam for a while until he was ready to start that pounding jam with them a few minutes later. It’s hard to say whether they were in previous agreement to play this jam, and Trey wasn’t ready or mis understood, or, the three of them “discovered” it at that moment and Trey wasn’t ready to join them. It’s hard to say without asking them directly about this kind of crap, as if they might remember.
But it is funny what musicians do remember. My friend Tom from Marin County told me this summer about running into Phil Lesh at a gas pump and striking up a conversation with him about being a fan, and the shows that he’s seen. Phil asked him about his favorites, and Tom told him about the sunset show from the Yale Bowl that we attended in 1973, and Phil remembered the show, the sky that night, and how the stage was set up on the western goal line facing the curved part of the stadium. He told Tom that they do remember the good shows, and he considered that one very good indeed.
But getting back to Fish, yeah I think he’s been better in lots of other shows. I kind of liked his playing the first day of Big Cypress, for example. I also thought he was better during the 97-98 time frame. But that’s just me.
Now that fone has put me in my immature place i have only one thing left to say/type/post.
Fart!
Fishman and Mike were getting better or at their best post-hiatus, individually
Trey and Page weren’t
as a cohesive unit they were at their best way before that, but Mike especially is obviously a better bass player in '04 than he was in '98, imo
scratches head
I don’t really get that either.
'98 Mike is some of my favorite Mike.