roger is going to eat these mothers for breakfast
look at how big he can open his mouth, just look, he can fit at least 5 death cab cuties in there at a time, no problem, none at all, now the digestive process, thats a different story
No offense but who listens to those albums or ANY Floyd albums just for the lyrics? That’s like saying you don’t like You Enjoy Myself because you hate the lyrics.
Stevo
Pink Floyd has amazing lyrics.
The music is mighty piss-poor on Momentary as well.
Plus… I will take any Roger solo album over anything Gilmour has done. Only Dave song I like is “There’s No Way Out Of Here”.
So belie dat!
I love YEM’s lyrics!
Dude. Go listen to Pink Floyd’s lyrics.
And yeah, Momentary Lapse of Lyrics was lacking in the music as well … although I love the two awesome songs it boasts. The rest of the album is boring though. Still, I’ll take boring over embarrassing any day, and it’s not embarrassing by any stretch IMO.
On the other hand I’m not a fan of Final Cut. So I’m by no means a Waters apologist.
i was just thinking about it and the only Floyd that i can say i really love would be “Meddle” and “Dark Side”
and “Wish You Were Here” is really good too.
and then just some scattered songs and things here and there
i really don’t like “The Wall” or “Final Cut” too much. They just have that…sound that’s just…kind of annoying.
i said it.
but the Floyd i like i love. I’m just saying that they aren’t all the way perfect but then who is?
besides the Beatles?
and the Band
and Phish
Wait, The Band too? I didn’t know about this. Nobody told me this.
Either way, my point is that the lyrics don’t matter if the music isn’t very good. For all of Roger’s wonderful lyrics, there’s maybe one worthwhile song on Final Cut in Not Now John…and that’s about it.
And Momentary has a number of great songs. Learning to Fly, Dogs of War, Sorrow, One Slip and especially One the Turning Away are all fantastic. And almost the entire Division Bell is just awesome. I’ll take that stuff over the Final Cut thank you much.
Stevo
^I’m with you on that post.
Final Cut is so dramatic, and without the quality songwriting to back it, it strikes me as kinda pathetic. Momentary & DB have some great songs, and I do prefer them both to Final Cut. [Just to be a pain, I have to point out that “Sorrow” isn’t much of a song … isn’t it one chord, maybe two? Melody has like, three or four total different notes? Not into that song. “Dogs of War” doesn’t offer much more.]
But I still think Roger’s lyrics are more valuable than you might realize. Ringo’s effect on Sgt. Pepper is not a fair comparison by any stretch.
Maybe you have to be into Animals & The Wall, which I am. If you don’t dig the Wall, then there’s no point in arguing the relevance of Roger Waters’ talent.
::disregards all of stevo’s opinions from now on about Pink Floyd::
I like Division Bell so much more than AMLoR, except that Learning to Fly & On the Turning Away are probably my favorite songs from all three of those albums combined.
But otherwise I find Momentary pretty bland.
Final Cut isn’t bland … it’s just miserable & moody without having good songs.
My take on it is this: Final Cut and Momentary Lapse of Reason are both fantastic examples of how both guys are so important to the overall Pink Floyd thing. No matter how you slice it.
When I think about it I think I like the Momentary LIVE versions of those songs. The live version of Sorrow is light years better than the original. When I think about it, I usually listen to the live album Delicate Sound of Thunder more than Momentary itself. Live Dogs of War is pretty sweet.
And Final Cut…ug…the worst is how Roger wanted many of these songs as part of the original Wall…thank God the band rejected them. I think it’s proof that Roger started to go a little nuts at the end where his project became bigger than the band (The horrendous Wall movie being further evidence of this). Generally it’s a Roger solo album and not much of a Floyd album at all. So I guess if you like Roger stuff, you’d like it. Either way, the lyrics weren’t like any other Floyd album, especially since they specifically ripped on certain leaders while other Floyd lyrics are more vague and open to interpretation. Doesn’t work for me, I guess.
Stevo
That’s just it … I love what Roger brings, but Final Cut just falls flat to me somehow. I love the Wall, love the film too, love “When the Tigers Broke Free” … but Final Cut sounds musically forced and lyrically beyond bleak.
Um … Momentary’s songs live still feature the same songwriting, right? 
Sorrow is the most boring bit of writing from them in years, man. It’s not horrible, just uneventful I guess.
DG ~ "Guys, I got a new song … " [ … oh wait … forgot Pink Floyd’s only two people in 1987] … “Guy, I got a new song … just play drums while I play the E minor chord a lot. I’m gonna sing a melody that consists of the note: E.”
NM ~ “What do I care man. As long as you don’t yell at me like Roger always does.”
Hey at least we agree that Final Cut isn’t for everyone.
Again, who listens to Floyd for the lyrics? All I know is Gilmour tears up that guitar during the end of Sorrow. Rock and Roll!!!
Stevo
I admittedly don’t know much about Pink Floyd. Only heard a few of their albums and the songs that are on the radio. Just never really got into it.
“Have a Cigar” is probably my favorite Floyd song.
Have a Cigar is better than all the songs on Final Cut combined…
Have a Cigar is even better than actual cigars.
::steals Waters lyrics out from under Stevo’s nose & smokes 'em::
::finishes that off and smokes Have a Cigar::
Floyd went downhill after they kicked Syd out.
/thread
Now I am wondering if Stevo knows what The Wall is about…
What leaders? The Wall is about an insane human being who shelters himself from everything around him (his family, his love, his past, and finally his fame which brings him over the edge of insanity). Each one of those things is a brick…
The only time I can remember off the top of my head any certain person being singled out on any Floyd song is in “Pigs (3 Different Ones)” off of the Animals album.
“Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.”
about Mary Whitehouse who advocated music censorship, and repeatedly brought up Pink Floyd as a prime example.
I don’t know…
Death Cab For Cuties rulez.
I love the Cut as well.
One album I need to listen to more… Atom Heart Mother.
That will be getting played first thing today.