Death Cab For Cutie slams Roger Waters

[hosemasterflex]

Right, but I still don’t enjoy the album, so how does that help me?

I made this same argument about early Phish songs the other day (that I loved the uniqueness of the early songs and somewhat resented the ordinaryness of the later songs), so it’s funny that I’m making the opposite argument.

Plenty of albums sound like Hoist (in a way) and nothing resembles Junta, to me. Difference is that I love Junta and am just mostly okay w/Hoist. It’s the opposite w/Floyd. I love Meddle & WYWH, but Piper’s maddening to me, just kind of annoying.

I’ll keep trying though. I listen to it every now and then with the hope that it’ll grow on me. I enjoy Saucerful of Secrets a lot more.

[goldenroad]

^ If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. I’m not trying to get you to like it. I’m just trying to state why I think many people consider Piper to be the best Floyd.

[El_Bastarde]

@willbreathes

Now I am wondering if Stevo knows what The Wall is about…

especially since they specifically ripped on certain leaders

What leaders? The Wall is about an insane human being who shelters himself from everything around him (his family, his love, his past, and finally his fame which brings him over the edge of insanity). Each one of those things is a brick…

With that comment, I was specifically referring to the Final Cut. Roger lists leaders like Margaret Hatcher by name since he was pissed at Britain killing some folks in Argentina at the time and focused a lot of the songs on that specifically. My whole point is that Floyd was always very vague with their references and left them open to interpretation, like you describe, but in the Final Cut, that changed.

I’m always so engaged by these conversations … people have such incredibly different perspectives on albums. I love it and I hate it.

I love it because it makes for interesting exchange of ideas and views. It provides a reason to share the music with one another, to share our preferences and passions.

I hate it because sometimes we just want to beat our opinions into our friends’ heads! haha!

SO true.

My favorite Floyd albums are Atom Heart Mother, Saucerful of Secrets and the Division Bell.

I don’t listen to Piper stuff that much…to me it’s not bad, but it’s like a completely different band. Same with Final Cut since it’s basically a Roger solo album rather than a band album. I used to dislike Meddle but it’s grown on me in recent years so that changed. Overall I’m not that big a fan of Ummagumma, Obscured by Clouds and Final Cut.

Even stranger, I almost NEVER listen to the studio versions of the Wall and Dark Side since I have MUCH better live versions (in my opinion) on the Pulse and Is There Anybody Out There live albums. I’m big on live albums for almost any band. I do the same with the Who’s Tommy where I’ll always listen to the live version rather than the studio.

Stevo