Election 08

Non-Phish General
#80

is Obama gonna repeal patriot act 1 & 2? no he voted for #2
is Obama gonna get our bailout money back? NO he voted for it
is Obama gonna end the war in Iraq? NO he’s going to expand the war to pakistan and afghanistan
is Obama gonna repeal the unconstitutional FISA? NO he voted for it.
is Obama gonna go after any part of the criminal Bush administration? NO, he took a friendly call from BUSH last night

Is Obama gonna do ANYTHING for the American people?, NO he believes in globalism.

WOW. 4 more years of sheople believing in the false left/right world that doesn’t exist.

“Let them eat cake!!”

#81

^ All together now…

Dude, for serious, what kind of support to you hope to gain for your views if you call those who do not believe as you do “sheople”?

Every time you get an inch closer to being informative and somewhat convincing, you go ahead and do something like this…and totally redeem yourself !

:stuck_out_tongue:

:wink:

#82

^If the shirt fits

Your going to let my use of the word “sheople” blind you to the FACT that Obama’s voting record is wretched?

“Let them eat cake!!!”

#83

^^ so funny…

I wrote in Skywalker/Kenobi, but there was some confusion over whether or not I meant “old Ben.” My ballot was discarded.

#84

is Obama our next president? Yes. So shut the fuck up with the whining.

seriously if its that bad in your eyes… canada and mexico are only a short ways away…

as for me… i’ll be celebrating with the world. no more fear. hope. empowerment. unity. something i’m not still not seeing from the losers, but from the people ready to write a new progressive chapter in our history books; the majority, thats what matters.

#85

the false left/right world i’ve been living in my whole life doesn’t exist?

theres gotta be some info of great magnitude i’m missing here…

unless only the true left/right world only exists… what?

see…

lets make some sense…

#86

oh great here we go. “If you don’t like Obama leave the country” BS. LOL too funny.

Yeah, love your globalist master while he ships our taxpayer money to the bankers. Mccain is the same thing.

You have no idea about Obamas voting record or you would use it to shoot down my posts. OBAMAS RECORD STAND WITH MCCAIN AS BEING THE SAME IN THE ISSUES I HAVE WROTE ABOVE. Period.

I have the 2nd amendment as an American don’t I?

I love when I bash Bush/Mccain the supporters tell me to leave the country. Now the same thing happens with Obama. LOL

So which is it then? If I don’t like Obama I should leave the country or if I don’t like any of the candidates I should leave? Please clarify for me.

#87

yes the world where Obama AND MCCAIN vote for the patriot act and the bailout and FISA. You know the REAL WORLD where both candidates are the same on the MAJOR ISSUES.

You know the world where Obama takes a nice call from the war criminal and liar Bush? you know that world? that’s the REAL WORLD.

#88

if you dont like the country and all you do is bitch about it…

yea… i’m not telling you to go anywhere… just lettin ya kno if you’re gonna cry about it so much… why deal with it? you could just get outta the US and not have to bother right?

we could use optimism with these times, its pretty clear that Obama and McCain were polar opposites, and the voting record argument doesn’t really phase anyone… as far as we know that was the past and theres a brighter future ahead, thanks to yesterdays landslide.

its beating a dead horse debating with those who complain bout government, then complains more when something is done to combat the first issue, then complains more bout what happend last and so on… seriously look at whats NEXT not whats past… sure knowing history helps not to repeat itself, but to dwell upon it hoping for a miracle is retarded.

#89

and no fucking shit he took a call from Bush last night… HE FUCKIN WON THE ELECTION, SAME WOULD HAVE GONE FOR MCCAIN, BARR, PAUL, NADER, EVEN ME IF I FUCKIN WON.

does that mean i’m a part of your conspiracy?

if so…

shit…

get the head out of your ass.

#90

^ That avatar has me ROLLIN’ ! The same thing happened to a guy I met at the pub last week…he was at Northeastern Prison in PA on one of the “scary night tours” and some zombie jumped out at him…that zombie earned his wage that night, and then spent it at the dentist.

:slight_smile:

#91

It’s clear to me from both Mccain and Obama’s voting record that there is NO difference in the two in the issues I care about.

The bottom line is these two guys are frauds and I’m going to call it like I see it.

I am being positive here, I’m pointing out the BS. That’s pretty positive to me man.

#92

No, I’m going to let your use of the word “sheople” open my eyes to the fact it seems like you are trying less to win the support of your peers and trying more to deliberately, and probably subconsiously, alianate yourself by having a controversial opinion.

I respect the fact that we believe different things, but you seem to express your views with a “holier than thow” attitude, as if I am some blind piece of livestock for not seeing things your way.

You call it like you see it, I’ll call it like I see it. And I’m calling “bullshit”.

Pa’shaw.

P.s.

You think you’re being positive? C’mon, really? I think it’s time for you to heed Bobby’s advice and “take a step back…and take yet another step back.”

#93

so if my day went something like…

wake up late (BS)
car dead (BS)
miss bus (BS)
walk to school (BS)
fail a test (BS)
pass a test (+)
miss bus home (BS)
walk home (BS)
find a wad of cash walking home (+)
find my house broken into (BS)
still have my family and friends (+)

now someone comes along, sees the shit i went through in my day, and is pointing out all the BS making me feel like a failure.

so by pointing out all the BS… its being positive?

maybe to you… not in all cases.

#94

i see where tfp’s coming from, and i think it’s legitimate. i’m HOPING that there’s more to the picture than meets the eye.

i honestly don’t think We The People can or will deal with another corrupt politician for pres. we have demanded positive change and we will be a part of that change. Obama’s under the microscope and he knows it. it would be foolish to try to repeat and continue the tactics of the failed Bush admin.

i really think now is a time to allow yourself to be hopeful tfp.

#95

I am holding out hope that Obama is simply compartmentalized and doesn’t TRULY understand what he supports as far as globalization and bailout and and and. Maybe when he finally gets in office his handlers will tell him the way thing “really” work and what being a globalist “really means” and he will simply not want to go along with it (ala JFK). However this is a long shot considering his support for the bills I listed above.

The thing is he won’t have to OVERTLY be a liar and criminal like BUSH because well all the heavy lifting has already been done via Bush with PDD51, Patriot Act 1 & 2, FISA, Homegrown terrorism act, SPP, bailout, etc…He can simply excercise those powers with a manufactured crisis ala false flag, economic collapse etc…and then take the plausible deniability route to sucker dupe the sheo, er, I mean the people.

IF Obama starts repealing these laws and directives and ends the war without escalation into Afghanistan and Pakistan I will be much more hopeful RIGHT AWAY. Seriously, I will.

#96

lol, what did you guys expect? Ofcourse tfp has shown that he is the kind of guy who is going to shit on Obama right away. He is a glass half empty kind of guy. He isn’t going to give him a chance as president. Everything is corrupt and a conspiracy to guys like tfp, and his idol Alex Jones. Tfp is the kind of guy who is told to ‘write in’ a vote for a guy not even in the race, and he does it. It’s funny cause tfp talks about Obama’s ‘handlers’, when in fact tfp himself has a ‘handler’ named Alex Jones (who is a hack to a man named Bill Cooper). Tfp is just as ‘puppeted’ as George Bush, when you really think about it.

Everybody hates George Bush and are exicited for someone who is new and fresh like Obama. People are thrilled that George Bush’s ass is out of the white house, but tfp kind even appreciate that! -a guy like tfp immediately comes to shit on the party. Then when something goes wrong(which something ALWAYS goes wrong in any presidency), tfp and his fat little mentor Alex Jones can sit back and laugh and point and say “we told you so”!

#97

If I got this ruffled and upset over politics… I would go insane.

#98

there’s no need to tear tfp apart KR. there are legitimate reasons to believe Obama’s just more of the same, going by records. i do personally feel he’s going to prove himself to be different, but i can easily see why people would be extrememly cautious. it’s okay, he’s gonna have at least four years to prove his worth. and he better. and i’m optimistic.

it’s alright if everyone’s not convinced yet. it’s definately a wait-and-see situation.

#99

Go Bills!!!