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#12

Quick question about BitTorrent…

After the show downloads, it will remain on my list where it says that it is “seeding” for other people. However, I don’t want to leave it on the list. If I right-click and pick “remove” will people still be able to seed it? I don’t want to screw people over but then I don’t want those shows mixed in with my list of downloading shows if I don’t have to. Can people still seed them if they’re not actually showing up on that list? Also, if they need to be on that list, how do I put them back on there so people can seed them?

Thanks,
Stevo

#13

Others will still be seeding, but once you take it off your program you will not. I fyou remove a torrent, all you need to do to “get it back” (you never really lost it unless you deleted the files- you simply removed from torrent program) is click on the original torrent link and save it to the same file as previously. Your program should check the files for 100% completion and then start seeding again.

I think you may be confusing seeding and leeching, at least as I understand your above post.

Leeching = downloading
Seeding = uploading. Once you are finished downloading, you should automatically start seeding. However, you’ve probably been seeding (uploading) as you were downloading.

Commonly, it is appreciated that you seed as much as you leech, or maintain at least a 1:1 ratio. If you don’t feel like leaving your torrents open forever, at least seed them to 1.00 (ratio) before removing.

Capiche?

#14

Yes, by your definition, I meant “seeding”…I’d already downloaded the files and I wanted to start sharing for others but I had hit remove from the list…I didn’t know if the program would still seed if I had hit remove on them and didn’t know how to put it back. Anyway, I found the links on bt for all the ones I removed except one of them so hopefully that will be good.

I don’t get the 1:1 thing. I see four numbers…like one file I finished downloading currently says Seeds: 0(1) Peers: 0(2). Not sure what that means and the BitTorrent Help menu doesn’t help. Ug.

Stevo

#15

The numbers outside of the parenthesis (sp?) is who you are connected to. When you are seeding, you will not connect to any Seeds, so that should be 0. However, to upload/seed you need to connect to someone in Peers section. It looks like you are not connected to anyone there either, but there is two people trying to connect to you. This is where forwarding your ports comes into play (www.portforward.com)

The 1:1 ratio is download:upload.

Obviously you can only download 1, but you can upload an infinite amount.

Probably when you just finished, your ratio was below 1:1, possibly a 0.35 or something. That means you shared back 35% of what you took. If you keep seeding, you will see that number go up. And eventually you will hit 1.000 That means you have shared 1:1.

After that, the ratio (assuming you keep the upload going) will reach numbers like 1.250, 1.500, 2.000, etc etc.

The 2.000 would be like a 1:2, or that you shared back twice what you took. Which is a good thing.

#16

Those numbers are people connected. So, one person is uploading (only) and two are still downloading (also uploading, but do not have a complete file set yet).

I use Azureus, a different BT client, and it shows how big each torrent is, and also how much I have uploaded for each. Once the uploaded amount reaches the same as the downloaded amount, I have attained a 1:1 ‘share ratio’. In otherwords, I have given back as much as I have taken. From that point on you are giving back more than what you have taken, which is encouraged, though not necessary karma-wise.

Etree is an open tracker, meaning anyone can use it and ‘career stats’, if you will, are not kept. Lossless Legs, however, keeps track of what you take and give, and they strongly encourage a 1:1 ratio. Some trackers willl even go so far as to ban people who do not equally share what they take.

Let me know if I’ve further confused you.

#17

Eh…I still don’t know how the parethesis and such works or where I can look up my ratio but it doesn’t matter. I’m just going to leave the files up on the torrent after they’re downloading and let people go to town on them. That should take care of things. I’m doing this from my work computer and I’m making a copy of the files I download to take home and burn anyway. Good times.

Stevo

#18

Is there no column that shows how much has been downloaded/uploaded on your BT client? This number is usually 400MB-1GB+, depending on length (and bitrate?) of each show.

#19

Don’t want to hijack, but has anyone heard of .bin files? Will Gomplayer play them?

^Steveo in a week this will make more sense…the more you use bittorrent the better handle you will have on it.

#20

Use uTorrent

www.utorrent.com

assuming you use a PC

Willo

#21

Oh…there’s a column that has a percentage of how much of it has been downloaded for me. I was just asking about files that I personally have already downloaded 100% of…I was just worried about seeding those 100% shows to others and whether removing them from the list would stop this and screw over other folks which I don’t want to do. I’m just leaving them there after they’re 100% completed just to make sure.

By the way, I noticed Augustus put up 7-14-00 on BT for me…you’re fricking awesome, dude. Thanks so much. It’s folks like you that make me love this community so much.

Stevo

#22

So no column for uploaded amount? Using those two will give you your share ratio.

#23

Nope…doesn’t show how much was uploaded as far as I can tell, unless it’s somewhere I don’t know. It just seems to show how many people are seeding. No big deal…I’m not removing these files anytime soon.

Stevo

#24

I think Stevo is using Mainline Bittorrent, the “generic” client.

If you are on Windows, try out uTorrent.
If you are on a Mac, try Azureus (sp?)

#25

Yes, I’m using the main BitTorrent thing direct from the BitTorrent website. I like it because it’s easy to use and it actually works from my work computer and isn’t blocked or anything which surprised the hell out of me. I tried Azarus and it wouldn’t install on my work computer and I didn’t feel like checking why. Overall, I have no problems with the one I’m using…I don’t need to see if the files have uploaded…I’ll just leave them up for a while.

Stevo

#26

Also, I tried shorten but it doesn’t seem to work. I had to use the Command Prompt to run it but the only command that would work was the “shorten -h” help command…nothing else would.

However, I read that Nero is actually able to burn shn stuff. It either will naturally or will if you get some sort of plug-in…I have Nero and didn’t even know this. I got the plug-in and I’ll try it out tonight…

Ahh…adventures in digital music…

Stevo

#27

By the way, it doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of Trey shows out there. Are there better sites out there? I’m trying to get all thr Trey shows I’ve been to as well (as a couple SCI shows I’ve seen too, especially this sick one I saw in 2000).

Stevo

#28

I use mkw to convert shn.

http://etree.org/mkw.html

#29

SCI is on archive.org

Trey shows you gotta grab when you can see them.

#30

Hose has now transformed back from Silva? Very good, sir. Anyway, I’ll try that link there. Shorten didn’t work and I couldn’t get Nero to burn it even with the plugin thing. Adventures in CD burning.

As for the archives.org, I found the SCI shows I’m looking for but I downloaded some zip of the whole show then when I tried to open it, it asked me to insert some sort of master disc or something. Very strange. It’s never easy.

And apparently no one ever taped any of the Michigan Trey shows since they don’t exist in the torrents even though I saw tapers at all of those shows. How disappointing.

Stevo

#31

If a torrent has zero seeders, it will dissapear off of the site.