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Non-Phish General
#81

I would have to strongly disagree with this. I have always been a big supporter of third party candidates and I believe voting for them is where your vote can be most effective. The third parties rely on how many votes they get so that they can be on the ballot in the next election without having to petition for it.

Here in NY, Cuomo was a shoe-in for governor against kooky Carl Paladino. There was no worry of taking votes from him if you voted for one of the very colorful third party candidates we had representing, so I threw my vote to Howie Hawkins of the Green Party. The Greenies got the amount of votes they needed for that race so that next time around they can automatically include a gubernatorial candidate and I feel good that I played a small role in that. Actually, all of the 3rd partiers got a surprisingly large number of votes in that specific election and I see it as a fantastic thing.

Even if the third parties don’t get much of anywhere, ignoring them or considering them a waste of time is doing a disservice to yourself and your fellow citizens, especially with the extreme stances the “big 2” take on all the issues now. We need a larger array of candidate choices to reflect the varied populations being represented and this is the way to do it.

#82

One of the funniest things I’ve ever read on the Pa. :crazy:

#83

I agree completely. He promised to do everything he’s done. It amazes me how little the voting public really listened to what he was actually saying before they just jumped onto the hype bandwagon.

Now he was lying when he promised a tax CUT. CUT CUT CUT.

#84

Not sure where your confusion comes from, but the reality is that he followed through on the promise to cut taxes as well.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/28/barack-obama/tax-cut-95-percent-stimulus-made-it-so/

#85

Getting facts from something other than a “Truth-o-meter” is a good place to start. Show me where a CUT (key word “CUT”) for 95% of taxpayers actually happened. Playing with student loan stuff, unemployment benefits and/or blanket credits to the group of choice is not a cut. I can write an op-ed that shows anything, I want to see the language from a bill that passed that indicates a tax cut for 95% of taxpayers.

It didn’t happen.

#86

I could ask the same of you…to try a little research before throwing out allegations, no?

Try this:
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus/tax-cuts-for-individuals

From the IRS:
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,id=204447,00.html
"Most wage earners will benefit from larger paychecks in 2009 and 2010 as a result of the changes made to the federal income tax withholding tables to implement the Making Work Pay tax credit. "

Even Fox News stated the following:
“The Making Work Pay tax credit, Obama’s signature tax break in the stimulus package, provides up to $400 to individuals making up to $75,000 and up to $800 to couples making up to $150,000 through adjusted withholding in their paychecks.”

#87

Key word “CUT”. Credit and cut are not synonymous. They mean VERY different things relative to taxes. I am not a believer that credits actually help the economy. They are just glorified welfare.

#88

Don’t blame me. I voted for marijuana. :thumbup:

#89

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