good enough answers for me! 
10/14/08, right? hmmm That is a Tuesday, darnnit!
i understand how anyone could feel this way. we’ve been conditioned for so long that the world is a certain way that it’s really hard to accept the possibility something different w/out hard, physical proof of it, or even at all.
i differ in that i believe there’s plenty of proof, but more importantly, Truth. you just have to use your god-given discernment to see Truth from lies, hoaxes and such. it’s not really that hard, you just have to do a little looking, and only then if you’re inclined to do so. there are large numbers of people, growing everyday, from all over the world, from all walks of life and all professions who are discovering something different. many of them have known for years and have put everything on the line in order to get the Truth to us. i’m not sure about you, but i can’t see any sense in doing what they do (and in many cases losing their lives or worse, the lives of their loved ones) only to perpetuate rediculous hoaxes and conspiracy theories.
we’ve seen blind faith driven by a culture of deciet and greed for eons. we really don’t know anything else. the possibility for a way of life based on truth and love and human dignity seems so impossible when you look at the world and our history. we are actually deeply afraid to even really hope for it. what can we possibly believe in? we’ve been kept pushed down, blinded from our true potential, ignorant of who we truly are and what we can accomplish for so long, how could it be any different? that’s just been the system forever.
i think that is beginning to change now. the old, obsolete systems that have controlled us for so long are crumbling and making way for something new. something created by all of us. something better. what has been increacingly happening on a global scale is the shedding of light on what’s been kept in the dark for as long as we’ve ever known. the tipping point has been reached. Truth can no longer be hidden by the puppeteers of the world, and it won’t be long at all before we all see it for ourselves. finally, the world is waking up
CJ, you are open-minded, which is a good thing. If you want to see what real crazies are, just start reading the comments on the link you posted. I posted a couple of comments and I got an RSS going thru my email account everytime someones posts a message there. It is good for a laugh, not that I want to make fun of them, it’s just funny. I almost feel sorry for them. dude up above posting the heaven’s gate pic has it about right haha
^^yeha man Icke believes in reptilian lizard people being our ancesters. Really crazy wacky stuff. Another thing I bag on him about is he always talks shit about the media, and how there are no ‘real’ journalists anymore, but then goes on to quotes annymous sources or uncredible sources to back up stuff in his own presentations. Shouldn’t he himself investigate his all his claims to make sure they are true? He is still entertaining though and has fun to listen too and good ideas.
I will post my thoughts on 9/11 so you can check them out and see what you think. i can’t do it right now cause I’m just chillin and kinda wasted and don’t feel like going into all that serious shit right now, I’ll post my thoughts on it though maybe tomorrow cause I have the day off and I’ll just be at home watching football and stuff.
Anyway, love all the alien talk on this thread. definitely a cool topic I interested in. Hope to see them on the 14th haha. As long as they pick me to probe haha
wowowowowow
:breathes an exhaustive sigh:
I don’t know about you but I’ve been deconditioning myself since I was 14 years-old. I have questioned everything.
To put it bluntly, I find all the evidence and first-hand accounts I’ve heard to be 99% nonsense and false impressions. I do not have evidence to support my theory, because in essence it is not really a theory at all but just an opinion. But I am a sceptic by nature, and it has served me well.
What I find disheartening is the true believers way of pigeon-holing those of us who aren’t convinced outright. It seems to me that as long as I say I am a doubter you consider me a non-believer. I am a man of science first, and my faith is in chaos and the cosmos, not anarchy per se, but lets just say I don’t believe in fate or luck, except for the luck we make for ourselves. This outlook on life is what fuels my scepticism. And I don’t see one bit of real proof in all the stills and videos and interviews you guys have posted.
I don’t doubt that some people have witnessed things they believe to be of extra terrestrial origin, but I honestly think that most of these folks are wrong or confused, or want to believe so much that they use their imagination to fill in the gaps. And the fakesters, the fabricators, only makes your side of this argument that much more of an uphill battle.
I don’t believe in a global conspiracy to cover up the aliens either. There are far too many high-power telescopes and radar antenna arrays pointed out into space all around the world that are not controlled by governments. By now I would think that an extremely sensitive antenna or hp telescope would have spotted something entering Earths orbit long before the guys with handi-cams that always seem to be in the right place at the right time…
And forgive me if I seem terse at this point, but what does the human condition, the state of global affairs, the state of love and trust, what do these things have to do with a belief in alien encounters? I know we are supposed to be talking about visitors here, and I trust that your passion is genuine, but your last two paragraphs go off on a tangent and don’t come back. I’m not quite sure what point you’re trying to make about e.t.'s…You seem to go off on a very emotional, somewhat disjointed, diatribe at the end there. Are you trying to convince me or scare me away?
C’mon dude, focus.
^ very good points. i get the scepticism, i promise. and yeah, i go off on tangents all the time, haha. but gimme a break would ya? clearly i was sonted something feirce
i’m not trying to either convince or scare you or anyone else, honest. i’m just vomiting out what’s in my mind onto the infinite superweb. i happen to like it here and enjoy all you folks, so this is where i do it. but i swear, there is a point to what i was saying, which does, of course, revolve around certain things i believe. and THAT is: i think things are changing right here and now in a big way here on earth, regardless of e.t.'s. if they pay us a visit, that’s just a cherry on top. and yeah, i think they probably will. and if nothing happens, i’ll be the first one to laugh at myself for all this. for halloween i’ll just make a foil hat, play some AM conspiracy radio show through my fillings and be myself.
sure i’m a little crazy lately, but i’d be lying if i were to say it hasn’t broken up the monotony a bit. ;D
lol.
yes, i know
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First off, he says, “hexagonical”… I guess he meant “hexagonal”; whatever he meant I’m just going to go ahead and say that he is a nitwit. Please don’t tell me that’s you talking…
I can’t find any explanation anywhere as to what caused these shapes, no explanation for either side of this argument, but if I were to take a leap here it would be to say that these strait lines and obtuse angles might have something to do with “line of sight” errors.
These pics are taken by several satellites and then assembled into a 3D image. Maybe there is a glitch in the software or an interruption in signals between satellites coordinating the 3D image with one another. If the line of sight is compromised than the image will be as well.
If these images are some sort of craft, and by the size of the image they would have to be thousands of miles across, why is it they only appear as anomalies on Google and nowhere else?
So, maybe it’s some alien craft with a cloaking device? Well, even in theory a cloaked vessel would only have it’s visibility hidden, not it’s mass. A shape that large moving through cloud formations would not just “cut” strait lines through the clouds, it would disrupt all the clouds around it.
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^^nope, that’s not me. and just to let you all know, the shapes on google earth have not been stationary. they’ve been changing and morphing and moving around quite fluidly. they’ve gone from hexagons, to diamonds, to rhomboid, to triangles, to “snowcone” shapes and back again.
some of “clues” to look for that were given (BEFORE the google earth anomolies appeared) by the supposed visitors to various people (the most famous of which i guess would be Blossom Goodchild) have been: “snowcone”, “diamond”, “table” and “rainbow”. hm. one of the crafts we’re hypothetically supposed to see is 2000 miles long. when measured across on google earth, the largest of these constantly morphing shapes is…wait for it…2000 miles. no need to believe me, look for yourself. i don’t care if you’re the most rational person on earth, or if you talk to smurfs on a daily basis; these are very strange coinsidences. maybe that’s ALL they are, but ya gotta admit it’s a little eerie, no?
no need to explain to me possible satelite glitches and how clouds would or would not be affected by a “cloaked vessel” (do you hear yourself? ;)). if there is indeed some sort of a cloaked extraterrestrial craft in our atmosphere, then i’m not very concerned about why the clouds aren’t doing what you think they should be doing in such a case. i never read Dune. maybe the explanation is in there? but keep rolling your eyes at me, space, if it makes you feel better :-*
at any rate, only one more day until we find out one way or the other…
ok so how can we see this?
I have to say, that “hexigonical” thing looks just like your average Star Destroyer. Can’t wait for tomorrow.
^^^But you should be concerned about what the clouds are or are not doing. I don’t subscribe to these theories, you do. You should be concerned about the impossible physics of the only “proof” everyone is believing in. It’s not a matter of “what I think [the clouds] should be doing”, it’s simple physics. Plain and simple.
Are the answers in Dune? Hell no! It’s fiction! It’s just the best “speculative” fiction I’ve ever read. Frank Herbert was one of the most brilliant minds of the twentieth century, I recommend all his works, even his non-fiction essays and editorials that are compiled in a book called Dreamer Of Dune. This man’s train of thought and philosophies really effected me when I read the Dune Saga, on a level that makes Descartes look like a broken calculator trying to write Passions Of The Sole .
I’ll tell you what, let’s make a bet: Whichever one of us is wrong come tomorrow owes the other a bottle of Dandelion & Burdock soda.
:-*
sounds perfect, space! ;D
Anything yet?
Hmmm…I guess they must not like getting up early. That must be a universal thing.
^haha, yeah. did i start this thread? maybe it was less than wise. wow.
i’ll wait out the day before giving my apology and a fairly entertaining story as well.
damn it hurts already though…