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John Lester pitched 7 innings of one run ball against a pitcher who has only started one other time in his professional career, so naturally The Cubs lose 1 - 0.

I can’t stress enough how much I want Jason Heyward to be good. So far in his tenure with The Cubs he has been perilously near the Mendoza line. The Cubs have him for a long time on a huge contract. He has been the best player on The Cubs for the last few weeks, and hopefully that is a sign that things are turning around for him. Joe moved him up to #2 in the batting order, and last night in the bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, Cubs down by 2 it was the #2 spot that came to the plate.

I can’t stress enough how much I want Jason Heyward to be good. So far in his tenure with The Cubs he has been perilously near the Mendoza line.

It’s not quite that bad but it’s surprising how his hitting dropped off like that the second he joined the Cubs.

Tigers aren’t good but are at least competitive, especially at home. It’s about all I can ask for at this point. Especially since we’re now in the Dead Zone of Sports and baseball is all I have left until football starts.

Maybe some hope with a few position players but it’s slowly becoming a realization that Michael Fulmer might just be a decent #3 pitcher rather than the ace we were hoping for.

^^You want Dexter Fowler back :wave:

Kind of crazy how Fowler and Heyward haven’t really worked out with both teams.

Fowler has been one of the worst regular hitters of the 159 in the league. 157th in Average. 148th in OBP and 157th in Slugging. :wtf:

we are stuck, nobody would want to trade for him, and he is only in his second yr at 82.5mil, so you can’t release him and eat up that contract.

so word is he may be benched and hopefully he gets it together, but you are paying a guy so much money to sit. Not a good situation.

Looking at his numbers from the Cubs, I think it shows he is not a superstar and only thrives when he has a great lineup/team around him.

It’s just With guys like Heyward and Fowler who have such big contracts you expect them to make a difference on the club.

Well this season is brutal.

Tigers sweep Sox and are 1 game below .500 and 2.5 behind Cleveland. Given I figured we’d be DFL, this isn’t so bad. I guess the secret is to greatly lower your expectations.

Oof. You are not kidding, and I don’t see the O’s competing any time soon… unless they get a ridiculous package for Machado. They might be able to if they could get ATL to make a deal, though I am not sure they are looking for a rent-a-player. All signs point to Philly for him.

He was huge for The Cubs in 2016 - especially in the WS. Even though he is wearing the uniform of The Cubs’ arch-rival, I still love the dude. That said: Hard pass.

I read an article a couple of weeks ago about how the AL Central is historically bad right now. The fact that The Tigers are only 4 games back right now despite being two games below .500 is nuts. Losing Cabrera just adds insult to injury (or maybe it is the other way around).

The Cubs split a doubleheader with The Dodgers yesterday. In the first game they were winning 3-2 in the 9th with two outs and two strikes. They ended up losing 4-3. Does Detroit want Justin Wilson back?

They are also still going with this Ian Happ thing, and it is absolutely driving me crazy. According to Baseball Reference, Almora has the best WAR on the team, but he is still competing with a 0.0 WAR / -0.7 WAA player for playing time. I get that you have to let the kid develop, but there is a separate league for players who are in Happ’s stage of development. He is so young and has a ton of potential, but he isn’t ready for the show and it is hurting The Cubs.

What the hell is happening in St. Louis??? Dexter Fowler is having the worst season of his career (.167 AVG…WTF?!), and the manager stops talking to him, the GM does two interviews calling him out, and the fans are basically ready to tear him to shreds.

I did laugh at this though…

^ :wave:
Yes it is a mess.

My guess would be he doesn’t want to be in St. Louis and as for baseball I think he got by for his Athleticism, and in his age he is losing that, after that he doesn’t have much.

I do think he could thrive on a all star team who can go deep in the playoffs(like the cubs when he was there) But I think he his lazy and only puts his best forward when he wants to

Yes our GM called him out, and then retracted which made it all really bad, most of us in St. Louis just wished he would of said nothing publicly or stuck with his words.

This does not help with his trade value as well after those remarks. On the other side Dexter could use that as ammunition to get his stuff together and then maybe a team would at least take some of his contract off the Cardinals hands.

Apparently this is not the only time he has been called out by a GM

Dexter Fowler the latest Rockies player called out by Dan O’Dowd
https://www.purplerow.com/2013/11/26/5147632/dexter-fowler-trade-rumors-rockies-dan-odowd

As far as the coach it is my understanding that he doesn’t respond to texts from the manager.

As for the Deadspin. lol. I realize it’s deadspin, but our fans are far from shitty.
I will agree we have lost the Cardinal way, or I should say the way the Cards ran there organization no longer works.
People are all about money and destinations it seems. The Cardinals used to thrive on bringing in guys for less money, because they wanted to be a Cardinal who has been a winning franchise. That’s all they needed to lure people here.
But It is also has been mentioned that players don’t want to be coached by Matheny a sub-par manager, who got lucky with the talent he gained the first few yrs he came aboard.

St. Louis as a city is stuck in wanting to move this city forward. Every other city I see they are building and making the community better. we have failed miserably in that area. The crime and national racism stories don’t help either. while I believe some of this to be true, we also know how media can be and it’s not always as bad as it seems.

^ You and I had just joked about Fowler, but I didn’t realize just how shitty he has been this season. I thought we were just talking “Heyward bad.”

Also, I like to joke about the Cards and their fans, but most fans for most teams are just… normal folk. Some might be more entitled, some might be more fair weather, but for the most part fans are fans.( An obvious exception being Packers fans…what a bunch of ghouls… amirite?)

White Sox?

“Justin Verlander feels sorry for shittiness of old team; gives up multiple homeruns in the loss as a gift.”

Gee, thanks buddy!

Lotta trades made today. I want to know how Buccos fans are reacting to their big move (adding Archer). I for one am shocked that they are going for it.

Does this mean that Tampa now officially has nothing but bullpen guys?

We’re ecstatic. It’s not exactly going for it this because he’s under control, along with Kela. The assumption is that by trading Meadows we’ll re-sign Dickerson who has been a stud. Glasnow showed potential out of the pen but as a starter he looked scared to death imo. They could both be future franchise guys, but I like that we traded them for proven big leaguers.

Mostly everyone’s excited because the front office has finally shown they want to win. If we can get a more consistent middle infield (at the plate) before next year, I think we’ll have as good a shot as any in the NL, excluding the Dodgers probably. This is time to go for it imo, because the NL is pretty weak.

I was watching The Cubs game while listening to the show last night. It was a 1-0 (Nationals) pitcher duel until the 9th when the Nats got to The Cubs bullpen and added two insurance runs, making it 3 -0. In the bottom of the 9th, the Nationals pen loaded the bases. With two outs, enter David Bote.

^He’s actually reacting to that Twist segue.

And then there’s this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEqupc0s9DY[/youtube]

Ugh. The Cubs’ “one solo shot per game” strategy might not be a winning strategy.

^We got you, buddy. The Tigers helped end that silliness earlier this week. We aim to please.