local cuisine

Non-Phish General
#43

I’m not a fan of most southern cuisine. Bbq is highly overrated, most of the vegetables are cooked with too much fat to resemble anything healthy, and anything not cooked in fat is deep fried instead. Not to mention, sweet tea is VILE as is tea in general.

And, I wouldn’t consider a fried green tomato a staple. I lived in Bama for 28 years and I’ve never even seen one much less eaten one.

I do love the peach cobbler down here, though. Yummy yummy :slight_smile:

Most idiots in the south don’t call it pop or soda. They’ll say they want a coke and then the other person asks what kind. I usually say soda or sometimes I’ll say soft drink.

#44

^Whoah, there! I’m not from the south… but barbecue is not overrated when I’m doing the grilling!



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Just sayin… :angel:

And, imo, buscuits and gravy is the best breakfast available to man.

Funny about the soda thing though! “Get me a coke!” “What kind?” “Sprite!” :laughing: :wtf:

#45

Wow Dooj, I had to chuckle at the vast BBQ photo shoot, but I don’t blame you for taking them. It all looks phenomenal! Good work sir!

#46

I’m often convinced that Ollie would rather live anywhere but in the South. :wave:

#47

^Haha, pretty much :slight_smile:

Also, Dooj, I think my idea of bbq and yours might be different. I meant pork or chicken that has been smoked, pulled or chipped, and has bbq sauce on it. Do you use the word bbq instead of grill? I love food cooked on the grill or as you may call it bbq’ed! Actual bbq as I described above, not so much.

#48

i saw this coming :laughing:

if it involves cooking on a grill outside i call it a cookout

those pics look delicious though :slight_smile:

#49

Ha, yeah… I guess people do have different names for things in different parts of the country. And, technically, not everything I posted up there is “barbecued”. Some of it is plain old “grilled”. But, from what I know of the “official” definitions, the term barbecue does not refer to the sauce or whether or not sauce was used-- it refers to the amount of time and heat method used. Basically, barbecue would be cooked low and slow (like the pork butt, the ribs and the meatloaf in my pics above) and grilling would be high and direct (the chicken, the pork tenderloin and the peaches). But a lot of the best barbecue in the world is dry rubbed, without sauce (i.e. - Dinosaur Barbecue!).

Sticking some chicken in a crock pot with some KC Masterpiece does not make it barbecue, IMO. Just like adding carbonated water to something does not make it Coke! :laughing:

#50

^ hahahahaha . . . .Yeah, there are different kinds of BBQ in the South as well. If you’re in Memphis or North Carolina, you’re generally gonna get that low, slowcooked meat with heavy DRY rub. In say Georgia or South Caroline, you’re gonna get that same slowcooked flavor but not too smoky, and its gonna be drenched in sauce. Definitely wetnap material. Same thing in Mississippi or Alabama.

As for the soft drink thing, She’s right. Apparently almost everyone here wants to buy the world a coke. I personally say soda or order specifically. Coke does not equal sprite.

Oh and don’t listen to these horrible rumors! Fried green tomatoes are everywhere and sweet tea is NEVER vile! :wave:

#51

A visual breakdown of Pop/Soda/Coke/Other:

Blue=pop
Red=Coke
Yellow=soda
Green=other
Purple=no data

It is close, but it looks like the POPs have it!!

#52

By the way, I had some Tomato Pie when I was at moe.down. And I thought of this thread!

#53

^^That map is too funny.

I still can’t believe there are entire populations in this country that refer to all soda as “coke”. :crazy: Of course, by the looks of that map, those same people were willing to refer to the President as “Bush” for 8 years… so what can I expect? :laughing:

#54

I want to know what “other” contains.

Could be simple like “soft drink”.

Could be awesome like “caffeine syrup”.

#55

Rhode Island cuisine:

Hot Wieners are a Rhode Island staple, but it’s difficult to find them even in nearby Mass and CT. They are also known as “New York System” although they have nothing to do with New York and were perfected right here in Providence. The “New York” in the name was a marketing gimmick to make people think they were classy. There is nothing classy about hot wieners though. They are natural casing franks made from veal, pork and beef. They come in one long rope and are sliced into wieners at the shop. They are served on a steamed bun with minced onions, celery salt, meat sauce and mustard (never ketchup). If you walk into a wiener shop and order “2 all the way,” this is what you get:

We will be having NY System when you all come to my house for the Providence show. :thumbup: :wave:

Another RI tradition: Stuffies. These are quahogs (big clams native to Narragansett Bay) that have been chopped up, mixed with bread, sausage and spices, then put back into the quahog shell and baked. Everyone has their own recipe for stuffies and they’re usually always delicious. Fresh out of the oven with a little lemon juice and hot sauce is the way to go :thumbup:

You’ve heard of New England clam chowder (white) and Manhattan clam chowder (red and blasphemous), but Rhode Island has it’s own clear chowder. Add cream and you’ve got New England chowder. Add tomatoes and sell your soul and you’ve got Mahattan chowder. Start with freshly dug quahogs, fresh thyme, homemade clam broth and some potatoes and you’ve got Galilee Clear Chowder.

For breakfast, you can have some Johnnycakes. They are very simple griddle cakes made from stone ground white cornmeal (from Kenyon’s in Usquepaug, of course), boiling water and a little bit of salt and sugar. The cakes are fried in butter like any good breakfast food should be, then eaten with syrup, jam or just some more butter.

We also have a state beverage and her name is Coffee Milk. It’s like chocolate milk, except it’s coffee. Deeeeelicious. I recommend buying a bottle of Autocrat to take home with you when you’re in RI :smiley:

The runner up to coffee milk in the state beverage competition (seriously, there was a competition for this) is Dels Frozen Lemonade. Accept no imitations. Dels is just crushed ice, lemons and sugar. There are even little pieces of lemon in it. A hot summer day is made 1,000 times better with a Dels ‘n’ Vodka :mrgreen:

Also, if you order your coffee “regular” you’ll get it with cream and sugar.
Milkshakes are called cabinets and subs are called grinders. :thumbup:

#56

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#57

I didn’t know “regular” means cream & sugar only in RI. I better drop that pronto and just start saying “cream and sugar”.

I also don’t know why in Boston they’ve never heard of bakery pizza. But once in a while I bring up a bakery pizza from a supermarket bakery in RI and these people fucking flip out. Also, I can never find these in MA. Maybe it’s a RI food and I just never knew it. Thoughts?

#58

^Yeah, bakery pizza is very much a RI thing. Same goes for spinach pie apparently.

Maybe the “regular” coffee thing is more a US thing than a RI thing, but I ordered a regular coffee in Newfoundland and got it black

#59

I always call it fizzpotion

#60

So they say soda in Anchorage, pop in Fairbanks, and coke in Bethel? :crazy:

#61

I’m a fan of that rogue county in Iowa that calls it soda in a sea of pop :thumbup:

#62

It’s an invasion…