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This is silly. Watching Lost was one hour out of my entire week. I was able to watch it AND get my sports on TV. It’s not like it somehow prevented me from doing anything else. And my time isn’t so important that I can say I “wasted” it by watching it whether I liked the show or not. If not for wasting it on Lost, I would have been wasting it on video games or more sports. It’s no big loss here. People who hated it always say I “wasted my time” as though their time is SO important.
It’s really been funny seeing all the bad reviews of the ending and I really feel these guys didn’t “get it” in the first place and they always thought the show was about getting answers when it’s always been about the lives of the characters…and that’s exactly what it ended up being about. We weren’t getting endless backstory and background stuff on these people because it helped solved the mystery of who’s in the hatch…it was to expand the characters of the show…that’s what it’s ALWAYS been about. It’s like people forgot how well the storytelling was and only focused on what wasn’t answered. I agree, it’s likely not how the Lost guys wanted to do it but time constraints are what they are and things had to be shelved…people forget that it’s a TV show and TV shows have to change to fit TV constraints. Even funny is the “after the fact” comments on how people suddenly didn’t like this or that when no one complained about this stuff before. I might take this stuff more seriously if we didn’t see it after EVERY major show like this ended. Everyone hated the Sopranos. Everyone hated the end of Friends. Everyone hated the Seinfeld ending. And yet all those endings were similar to what those shows were for their entire run.
Overall, I think a lot of people started to dislike the show before the ending even happened and had already decided they’ll hate the ending no matter what happened. But they couldn’t bring themselves to stop watching it either. They all had this idea in their head of what SHOULD happen and when it didn’t, they were all angry. I still hear folks on the radio yelling about they “lied” about the show not being purgatory…they still didn’t even get the ending!!
Stevo
Steve-0, the reason you never saw Ben talk to “Jacob” (which was actually MIB most of the time), is because Richard was the messenger between “jacob” and Ben. So I guess Richard was also getting tricked.
but the “list” with Hugo, Forde, Kate, Jack, etc that Ms Clue had for Michael…I tend to think that actually was from Jacob, since we see Jacob “touch” all those characters in the last episode of season 5.
plus, you’re trying to disagree with a guy that worked on the show with the writers, so…yeah. your efforts are futile.

I’m still kinda taking it in…need to re-watch a few things…what a great series though, didn’t let me down whatsoever.
I am inclined to also say…Best.Series.EVER.
Well done. ![]()
“I broght you here becuase you were all like me…Alone!”
- Jacob
I think this might be one of the most important lines in the entire series…becuase it answers why they were there, and at the end, you get that resolution.
In the end, none of them were alone, becuase they all had each other.
See, I’m not so sure about that. Richard knew where Jacob lived…he knew he was in the foot of that statue. Yet, without Richard there, Ben took Locke to that cabin which he seemed to think was the home of Jacob. Remember, when Bran and Ilana first got to the island, they went there too and saw that he wasn’t there (and Jacob had left a note to where he actually was). I doubt Richard was going to that cabin and getting orders…he already knew that MIB was a trickster so he knew not to be fooled again like MIB had tried before…I’m sure he knew to not take orders from anyone but Jacob in that statue and not some mysterious voice in a cabin. Again, I think Ben never heard anything from Jacob OR MIB…he was just “winging it” by pretending that he was taking orders from Jacob to get everyone to go along with his orders. I do wonder why Richard didn’t speak up but he seemed to go along with a lot of the bad stuff that Ben did. Widmore did the same thing and you even see Ben call him out on whether he REALLY had seen Jacob during that scene when he takes Rousseau’s baby.
I agree. I think Jacob told Richard SOME things for sure, especially with the lists, but I think Ben did some other things (like purging the Dharma camp) on his own.
I’m not disagreeing with a guy who worked on the show with the writers. I’m disagreeing with a guy who CLAIMS he worked on the show with the writers. Given his error on Desmond being in the church at the end, and his error with the claims on Ben’s character originally being a three-episode character (disputed by Cuse himself in that podcast I linked here) then I have reason to question him, especially since he won’t give a name which is beyond fishy.
Good point, Golgi…the show was always about the characters. I think we kind of forgot about that until the very end.

^Haha! That was actually a pretty common theory for a while. The fans would have been pissssed! 
LOL@DWW. That would have been even better than a Bob Newhart ending. It’s all Vincent’s dream.
That would have been priceless 
People’s reactions to an ending like that would make it all the more funny.
^Can’t wait to steal those scenes off the internet!
^^^That site just wreaked havoc on my computer. First froze everything and when I tried to close it, it kept opening the same page over and over, at least 10 of them, one on top of the other, before I could get it under control.
I’m curious (among many things) about how MiB was “trapped” in that cabin by the ash ring, but was wandering the island as the Smoke Monster and various dead people and then how he was ultimately freed from the cabin as demonstrated by the disruption in the ash found by Ilana and her crew.
That is a lovely sentiment.
I disagree that this series was a character study, from my perspective. Six Feet Under (the other best 1 hour show ever) was a character driven show, Lost was an event/mystery driven show. Not to demean the characters, but their personal stories were not what kept me coming back each week (except maybe John Locke). With that said, I did not love the ending any less because of that opinion. In the end, even with a lot of questions left unanswered and some abandoned story lines, it came together beautifully and was a superb finale.
this is great. watch ben get beaten up over the years
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8WGHtmv4U&feature=related[/youtube]
“if we can’t live together, we’re going to die alone.” --Jack (Season 1, Ep. 5)
I laughed, I cried.