I don’t know if this was posted on the first two pages, but anyway…
glidemagazine.com/hiddentrac … ish-style/
Found it on SI’s Hot Click’s of all places.
The fate of all those characters are question marks right now. All I was saying is that it seems the only people who survived the 1977 bomb were 815 passengers. Meaning all the “others” and Dharma folks sunk with the Island. By the way how cool looking was the “under water” island?
I’ll have to watch again, but I believe Evil Locke was referring to the last thought John Locke had in his head before Ben strangled the life out of him…
^Ah, you’re right. Thought when he said “Before you killed him” it was referring to Jacob.
bummed that I have to work tonight and can’t watch…
my housemate and I are taping it and are watching tomorrow morning when he gets off work at 8:30 a.m…
That whole segment from the plane down to the bottom of the ocean was AWESOME. Definitely the coolest visual piece on the series thus far.
The two timelines have to co-exist because if “it worked” and 815 never crashed it creates a paradox. They had to be on the island for the incident to make the whole thing work. I don’t know how to write that idea so that it makes sense.
Tonight was a bit weak. I’m surprised that any episode in this season would be, but a lot of the stuff with Kate and Claire seemed like filler. Non-Locke (or “Locke”) episodes are always a little lackluster to me.
Man, I type too much. Sorry…
Ug…a bit of a dud last night. Just very little happened, it was a lil too much Kate (though at least she’s nice to look at) and I don’t think it moved the story much at all. Plus it’s hard to really get into this alternate reality stuff since we just can’t figure out the relevance of any of it. I mean, who CARES if Claire and Kate get reconnected and Claire still keeps Aaron!..it’s very possible that this is the REAL reality that’s happening but it just seemed lil hard to get into these alternate stories. Plus not having ANYTHING on Evil Locke and the gang was disappointing since that’s definitely the most interesting stuff.
Of course, doesn’t this happen every year? Seems like every season the 2nd, 3rd or 4th episodes are slow and tend to spend a lot of time “setting things up.” I guess we just need to be patient.
As for the show, eh…the whole pill thing is weird. For one, it’s possible that the “torture” test of Sayid was to test his reactions. Wouldn’t the old Sayid have not been yelling out and begging and asking questions? I don’t remember how he reacted when Rousseau did the same thing to him so maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it was to test how he reacted and his begging nature meant that he wasn’t “himself”?
As for the pill…I thought that it was used as a “test” of Jack’s character and stuff. I mean, if they want Sayid dead, why not blow his head off and what’s this stuff about how he “must take it willingly?” However, this doesn’t make sense since they said “if your friend dies, we’re all in trouble” so it stands to believe that they need him alive so why would they kill him? A coworker thinks the pill might have still worked and it’s poison to an “uninfected” person but it would work for an “infected” person. I’m not sure what to believe.
As for Sayid’s infection, this seems to clear up some stuff. Obviously I thought it was the Evil Guy taking these dead people’s form but it’s obviously different since Locke’s body never moved and we know that Christian’s coffin was empty. Now, it appears that if someone is left unburied then the Evil Guy infects their bodies and they become servants. I still have argued that I think Claire died with those mercenaries blew up the house with her in it and now it looks like she was infected and Christian came to lead her away as a fellow infected person. Also, it’s possible she kicked away the dirt surrounding the cabin though I don’t know why Christian couldn’t have done himself. It also explains the “sickness” of the French Dudes. These people live on as servants to the Evil Dude. So, this also means that Locke IS somehow special since they specifically targeted Locke (bytelling him he had to die) so perhaps Evil Guy could only truly come back with a dead Locke on the island.
And we may have it cleared out for what is different on Kate in the alternate reality. She said “If I said I was innocent would you believe me?” We all know that she ISN’T innocent so maybe in the alternate reality she really is innocent? And obviously we know Claire was different since she was going to give up the kid.
Of course, now it seems like the island is “auto-correcting” their lives where even though they’re different, they’re still all forming the same relationships and such outside the island.
Total dud. To be expected from Kate episodes… but, still, I was kinda hoping they’d ditch the fluff episodes this season. IMO, “What Kate Did” was a better episode than “What Kate Does”. And the writing was about as poor as it gets on LOST. Claire asks the crazy girl with a gun to drive her to her son’s adoptive parent’s house in a stolen cab? I honestly had an easier time accepting the polar bears.
That said, I’m looking forward to next week. I think we’ve gotten the fluff out of the way and now it’s time for some action. 
She was always gonna give up the baby (until 815 crashed on the island). But her circumstances, regardless of what timeline she’s in, have always kept her from doing so.
From Lostpedia:
That episode didn’t really answer any questions that I had. Is Sayid “infected” by the black smoke? The same thing that the French team were infected with? Are all “the others” (meaning Richard Alpert’s others) infected with this or are they immune to the “infection”?
Not the best episode ever, but still ninja Kate rules. That move she pulled on the temple guards was awesome.
Next week will be awesome though. It has to be a Locke episode.
I agree. This part was downright ridiculous. There’s no way a pregnant gal would endanger her child by getting a lift from the same madwoman who had stuffed a gun in her face in the scene before. Plus it was really weird that Claire was just sitting there in the same place where she was ditched…someone would have helped her before then.
But then again, it could just be showing the whole “destiny” thing where no matter what happens these characters will come together somehow and maybe we’re to believe that “something” compelled Claire to go with Kate…they seemed to hint at it when she randomly called the kid Aaron while in the hospital and said the name “just came to her.”
Equally ridiculously were the cops who showed up and HAD to have known Claire was lying since there would have been a billion witnesses who saw Claire in the car with the cabbie as he was hijacked…including the guy who escorted Kate through the airport. At the very least, the cabbie would ID Claire and there would have been a mad search for her. Not the writers’ best work there.
Plus…looks like Claire on the island is a the new Rousseau. She’s pregnant when she gets on the island…she loses the baby somehow…now she’s setting traps and hunting and even looks like a “jungle lady” like Rousseau as well. Except I don’t think Rousseau was ever “infected” like Claire likely is.
Oh crap…I forgot that part. For some reason I thought she was considering it but never had found a family to adopt her. I guess I’m straining to figure what is “different” with each character. I can’t figure out Claire and I’m only guessing on Sawyer and Kate.
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It seemed like Kate “knew” something when Aaron was mentioned.
Awesome to see Ethan.
Overall I agree it was a bit of a dud. Dragging the Sayid stuff out when in the end it didn’t really go anywhere. Sappy Sawyer. An entire half of the story was untouched.
Oh, and Mac from Sunny in Philadelphia appearance? Haha!!
I’m going to finally start watching this show. Anything I should know beforehand? 
Oh, so THAT’S where I’d seen him before!!! I knew he was on Lost before but I totally remember him from something else and couldn’t think of it.
Be patient. There’s some mysteries that are raised in the first season that won’t be answered until the final seasons and sometimes the show seems to be dragging it’s feet on giving answers but for most part, I’ve been satisfied with how they’ve done it. Plus, it seems like the 2nd-5th episodes of any season go a little slow.
And don’t get too obsessive about “the numbers”…they weren’t intended to have as big a role on the show as they got.
I’m enjoying this final season. I hope it wraps up really nicely.
What is the average hand grip strength for humans? Could Sawyer really hold on to that falling ladder?
Good episode. Wild ending. The numbers matched up to the last names. Woah.
And ole Locke, still getting shit on.
^^haha…I know. Sometimes you have to accept a little of the “impossible in reality” while watching this show. Aside from the obvious “impossible in reality” stuff.
Tonight’s was great. I could have sworn it was only 9:30 when it ended it went by so fast.
The biggest question I’m left with after this episode: Why did Helen mention bringing Locke’s father when she brought up eloping? How is it that his father would be going to his wedding, yet he is still with Helen and still in a wheelchair?
I’m also curious as to why they didn’t show Kate’s name (she must be #15) with the others on the “walls of the cave.” I’m not sure if it has some meaning or just one of those things that makes you wonder but doesn’t really mean much ultimately.
Hugo’s character is so completely different in the parallel timeline. He appears so confident and self-assured. I’m guessing they will each have an episode centered around their character in this alternate reality and I look forward to seeing his.
Of all the connections external to the island, John meeting Ben, the teacher, had to have been my favorite.
The boy: not quite sure what to make of him at this point in time, but I’m about to go digest and ponder the entire episode over a bowl so maybe I’ll gather some thoughts about him.
edit: I almost forgot about my very favorite part of the whole episode! When the boy said “you can’t kill him” and Locke/MIB yelled “don’t tell me what I can’t do!” “don’t tell me what I can’t do!” That was John Locke coming through right there. That particular recurring line has been used quite cleverly throughout the seasons but we first heard it in season one’s “Walkabout.”
The one thing that twists my mind in two. Obviously a correlation between the numbers on the “walls of the cave”, and the numbers punched into the computer. But with all of those crossed out… just… how?
And yeah, that boy… totally confused.
I know. I thought about all those crossed out ones too. Obviously other people brought there by Jacob throughout time. But why have none of them ever worked out?
This now sets my mind going on a bunch of other stuff:
-is it really just Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, and Kwon (Sun or Jin?) that are the reason all those other people were on that island? I see where Boone, Charlie etc. played their roles, but what about all the other survivors that weren’t characters on the show? Why did they survive the crash? For what purpose?
-Definite parallel between the way “Locke” talked about it being doubtful that there is anything to protect the island from and the doubt by Jack, then Locke, that pushing the button was actually protecting them from something bad happening. And we know that it surely was.
-The way the boy appeared was very reminiscent of the way Walt appeared in the jungle after he was taken.
-I can’t wait to see how Desmond comes back into this.
My first thought was the boy was Aaron.
But that wouldn’t make sense… would it?