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This Tweezer has become a joke. I’ll admit that.
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I couldn’t disagree more. This jam is wonderful. From start to finish. It seems every note is perfectly placed. Brother you need to get a set of head phones and listen to it over and over till you get it. There are parts of this jam that chill me every single time and the last 4 minutes make me cry. Trey and Page hit on such a beautiful theme they play twice thru and gently peak before going back into the main theme. In middle section Mike lays a wonderful thump and Trey plays these sweet chords over it while Fishman clicks with him and Page subtley wails on a synth. Even before this middle section there is a wonderful peak but I think the band never got too far out in this jam. They were focused and controlled.
I tell you this jam is sophisticated, subtle, mature, and ripe with talent. Best jam of the night imo. The magic is right there under your nose. Where the Tweezer is nice, its a C and this Gin is an A. I love it.
I wasn’t at this show but read all these reviews about how great the Tweezer was and then listened to it and was like “Huh?” … but then this Gin emerged. The last 6-7 minutes of Tweezer are unlistenable. I thought Trey was being artsy extending the “ebeneezer” section… a is probably right… he just spaced it. Where I like this Tweezer I prefer something a little more secure, tight… tho there are sections of brilliance in it.
To me phish couldn’t have done this Gin back in 95… they needed the maturity to accomplish this beauty.
But this is all just my opinion on this… agree or not listen to this again. Listen to the ending theme… from around the 15 min mark till the end. Once you really feel that then the rest of the jam is the gravy that leads to this magic moment.
Okay I’m splooging all over this but I am drawn to this Gin over and over… more than anything else I own. It comforts me when I’m troubled.
And while I’m on it (:P) The Star Lake CE&P jam falls into the same repetious boring stuff during the last five minutes and the Nassau Tweezer… I have a hard time listening to that. The CE&P jam is better than the Tweezer tho… the first three quarters of that jam is fantastic and the peak is magical, no doubt. But I can’t get over the last five boring minutes of wind downing space…
I like the IT 46 Days for its arsty quality but it never really peaks nor does it ever really go anywhere… still it makes for great background noise 
The SPAC asihtos is probably underratted. Beautiful jam… not as precise as the nassua gin but just as sophisticated and mature.
The Utah Mr Completely jam doesn’t do anything for me… that sounds like it would’ve been better to be there. Probably was fantastic live.
The IT Ghost is as good as everyone says imo… wonderful peak similar to the Star Lake CE&P and where it does go out there I find it to be very interesting. This Ghost is what the nassau tweezer was trying to be.
So thats my quick wrap-up of the jams I’ve listened to PH
I disagree with basically everything you guys have said so far, but I’m not going to bother to argue any because it’d be pointless. The 46 Days IT, spacey 03/04 Chalkdusts, and 2/28 Tweezer are some of my favorite ever jams. We agree to disagree, comprende??
As for which post-hiatus jam I think is most overrated…I’d have to say either the 2/28 Back on the Train or the 7/29 Crosseyed and Painless. It’s not they’re bad jams, they’re just very, very overrated. In my book, the 2/28 Train doesn’t touch the 6/14/00 Train, and the 7/29 Crosseyed has never really struck me as great. Like A said, I think some people mistake length for being good, and that’s the primary problem I have with that jam.
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Hey baby, post-hiatus is controversial. Scandalous even. Deal with it.
I will admit, there’s something special in the fact that my favorite post-hiatus jam is considered the most overrated post-hiatus jam by another person.
She’s a slut.
Booongggg.
I was there.
My last show.
And while I feel there were some interesting sections of the Crosseyed jam, the whole thing just doesn’t do it for me.
That whole show is pretty interesting though.
I think that in this instance, maybe I might subconsciously be placing more importance on it since I saw it. I definitely think we all do it.
I am disappointed that it doesn’t get more chatter around here, but I can understand why. For some people, the first set overshadows anything in the second (maybe not the “Harpua” breakout).
In general I think that the 7/29 show is overrated for all the bustouts and rarities. But this show is one that many fans, particularly older ones, have now canonized. I can understand its significance, especially for people who were on these tours and tired of hearing the mostly same songs over and over, but outside of that context I don’t think it’s that great.
07-29 was played extremely well (aside from the Harpua).
That’s why i dig it.
If it were all “throwaway” tunes, just like the rest of the Tour, i would still like the show if it were played just as well.
There are two killer sets that dig deep into the bag, whereas the rest of the Tour was mainly RR material and the usual suspects.
Which show from Summer 'o3 was better?
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^ They did what they did so many times before and rewarded those of us for driving from raleigh, to star lake, and then back to joisey, totally out of the way. i agree this show was super well played, and the C & P was the shiznit!
I think 7.9.03 YEM–>Simple is overrated. People tend to throw it in with the rest of the well-played show, but this portion is sloppy.
I agree about 7.15.03 Mr. Completely. I think that’s a jam where you had to be there. I’ve only given it a chance once or twice though.
Right now, I’d take 7.30.03 as a whole over 7.29, but that’s just a recent, probably temporary sentiment of mine. 7.29.03 is seen as the best of the tour because they combined the tight playing with cool bustouts, not even counting Harpua. However, I think the playing was just as good on 7.19, 7.30 and 8.2
I always thought the 7-29-03 “Jibboo” was particularly strong. It might get my vote for “most underrated post-hiatus jam.”
This is where we differ: tight playing and rarities don’t make a show great for me. I like 7/30 better because it has extended jams that go to interesting places along with rarities. It’s by no means one of my favorite shows, but I did pay for a copy of it while I don’t care to for 7/29.
Just my two cents.
What do people think of the SPAC Twist? Overratted?
Where its silly to call something “best ever” as some reviews have stated this twist did kick some monkey butt. Very tight jam, deeply funky, nice peak.
Dude man bro calling anything “best ever” after '95 is an embarassment to the Phish community.
But but but…Twist didn’t premiere until '97…
And I would call the SPAC Twist one of the best ever, actually. The only other good jams I can remember from it are 6/14/00 and 4/2/98. Granted I haven’t heard every Twist ever, and I think there’s a pretty good one from Fall '97 somewhere, but but but…
I agree, the SPAC “Twist” is tight, yo.
I will argue to my death that the band was on mushrooms for the 6/14/00 show. Hence the “nourishment” comment from Trey at the end of “Melt,” as well as the overall spookiness of the second set.