Mr. Clemens, do you recall bleeding through your..

Non-Phish General
#1

…pants?

-Rep. Tom Davis

Here’s a link to Jayson Stark’s (ESPN) blog at Congress’ hearings today.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3243182&name=congressional_hearings

At this point, I figure Rog-ah won’t continue to collect $18 mil for a half season’s work, and we’re beating a dead horse on whether he used or not and who is lying about it. I watched the 60 Minutes interview and concluded then that either he is a terrible liar or he hasn’t interacted with non-baseball players since his career began, thus living in his own delusional world. McNamer has little reason to be lying at this point, and Rog-ah is beyond the point of fessing up (I’ve already convicted him in my own delsuional world).

#2

Your right.

I don’t think he realizes that the court of public opinion is starting to view him as a cheat.

He will be in the same boat with Mark McGwire very shortly, and as soon as that happens he can kiss his ass goodbye.

#3

I’ve been hearing soundbites and other things about this and it looks like they are just DESTROYING Roger and his lame excuses. There’s this stuff about him admitting that his wife takes HGH when his lawyer adamantly said that was the worst part of McNamee’s story. (that’s the weirdest part of this…I didn’t know that she was a bodybuilder too but she’s got a major six-pack. Do they inject the kids and the dog too?).

There was this one Senator named Cummings who was reading endless amounts of Petitte statements about Roger telling him that he and his wife took HGH and all Clemens could say was “I don’t remember that conversation” This guy was DEMOLISHING Clemens and was on a role when they said he was out of time. They should have let them go on and on about it. It was great.

This is hilarious. Clemens was SO adamant at the start of the hearings with all these bold statements about being innocent and after that, he looks like he’s been beaten up in a back alley. Even better, because it’s a Congressional hearing, his laywer can’t say a damn thing.

For once I’m proud of something that Congress is doing…

My favorite quote:

Clemens says something like: "McNamee injected me with B-12 three times in Toronto and twice in New York?

Congressman: Mr. McNamee, is this true…

McNamee: (long pause) The first time I heard of Roger injecting B-12 was on 60 Minutes.

HILARIOUS!!

Stevo

#4

I suppose I should be seeing whats up with this…

::turns on ESPN::

#5

Can you imagine the cajones it takes to lie directly to the US Congress?

One of them is lying, we just don’t really know who. But one of them knows it, and they’re continuing to do so.

Man…

#6

Frank Pantangely will end up keeping quiet and Michael Corleone will walk!

#7

Wow Clemens looked pretty bad up there.

It was kinda funny yet painful in a way too. McNamee looks like a little weasel, but I still want to believe him over stupid Roger.

#8

I guess I’m a little confused. Didn’t Sosa and McGwire testify before Congress? Did anything come of that? If not, what are they expecting the end results to be here? For a guy to admit he took steroids?

#9

I thought these hearings were specifically because both men were subpoenaed to Congress and had conflicting ‘official recounts of incidents’ (<—my words). Now they are seeing who lied under oath- someone who will go directly to jail and not pass ‘Go’ if they are found to be lying, or someone who will have to face perjury charges if they are found to be the liar.

It is a fair assumption that one of these men is lying, correct?

edit: The header on the ESPN article is “Who’s Lying?”. I guess it’s safe to say someone is lying.

Liar!

#10

This is what it comes down to; Pettite fessed up to his steroid abuse because he says he wants to get into heaven so he has to tell the truth. Roger on the other hand wants to get into the hall of fame and that is why he is withholding the truth… why else would he take it this far? i mean his reputation was ruined before this hearing anyway

#11

Roger definitely wants to get in the Hall of Fame. Even though he had that rant about how he doesn’t give a shit about the Hall of Fame. Bullshit!!! Hope it doesn’t come down to the Veterans Committee on this one Roger. I guess that would only happen if the baseball writers don’t vote him in (which is a distinct possibility). They are a funny bunch that doesn’t forget anything. A bunch of bitter old ball players that think their era was the best.

#12

Or a bunch of amatuers that could never make it to the show!

#13

As far as I’m concerned, the Hall of Fame is a total joke and is ruined anyway. the fact that Ryne frickin Sandberg gets in yet Alan Trammell has basically no chance to get in is a collasal joke. Or the fact that they refuse to put in Jack Morris year after year when he’s done nothing but win titles at basically every place he’s gone to simply because he was a jerk to the media when he played. Even without the roids issue, the Baseball Hall of Fame and its voting system sucks. I don’t even care anymore…

Stevo

#14

Stevo I’ll agree with your argument that the Hall of Fame has turned into a joke, but come on man Sandberg was a first ballot hall of famer. Sandberg has the numbers to back it up at his position. That’s the key. When Sandberg retired he hit the most homeruns ever by a 2B (Kent has since passed him), won nine gold gloves, an MVP and countless Allstar appearances. Hey I love Trammell too, but he is not the caliber of Sandberg. Good player not a hall of fame player. Hey he’s even a bench coach for the Cubbies now, which I love.

Now Jack Morris I could argue deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. One of the best big game pitchers of the last 30 years. I’ll never forget the 1991 World Series against the Braves. I think he pitched 10 innings in game 7. Guy was a horse.