^^are you serious?
this is arguably THE band of our generation. And that’s barely their full repitoire.
I’m sure the shows were fire but i’m actually a little suprised by the setlist. There’s some repitition in there and not nearly as much stuff from the new album as i would hope.
either way, Pearl Jam does no wrong.
i hope i win that Jambase contest for this box set and Lalapalooza tickets/airfare.
I think we’ve gotten into this before, but I know all about Pearl Jam man. They were my favorite band (period) from Grade 6- Grade 10. They were all I listened to and I still have almost every available bootleg (on cassette) up until 1995 (at least what was available at the time given the lack of online trading). I just lost interest after Yeild as I noticed their live shows weren’t changing at all. The music grew stale and the songwriting just got terrible. No Code was their last good album then it just turned to complete shit. I’ve heard every PJ album since then and there is nothing in them for me. I really can’t listen to any of the early albums any more either (with teh exception of Vitalogy on occassion), but I had such a huge collection I can’t sell them either. Pearl Jam were an early '90’s fad that somehow stuck around, but they are definately not THE band of our generation. That honor has to go to Phish, or MAYBE Ween.
Ween should rarely be compared to such Greatness as Pearl Jam or Phish, except to say that one of their songs has been played by Phish. Plus ween are assholes.
TEN is one of the best albums ever.
I bought it four times over the years (1 tape, 2 CD ruined, 3 used CD, 4 digital). This album should never be over looked, whatever man. I too have tons of they’re bootlegs and will always love the music and never get sick of it. Do The Evolution.
Yeild, No Code, Binaural, Riot Act and Pearl Jam all provided great material too.
a party always has to have the “just speaking my mind” guy. (edit)
I agree with you there.
I like Pearl Jam. I definitely think they did they best work in the 90s. But to call them THE band of our time is patently ridiculous. It’s fine that you like the band way more than me, or 90% of the people in the world, but they are one of the last bands I would call THE band of our time. I think saying a band is THE band means they have kind of importance or lasting impact. I would call Pearl Jam a great fucking rock band and nothing more or less.
whatever. I love Pearl Jam and their crowd seems to be one of the only crowds around that’s so universal, as in not playing to one “category” of people. You go see PJ and everybody’s there; the punks, the metalheads, the frat guys, the hippies, the revolutionaries and mostly, the neutral human beings. That’s why i said “THE band of our time” because they cater to just about everybody and they’ve stood the test of time as well as anyone. I happen to think they’ve been getting better as they age and mature. I could say the same thing for Radiohead, and maybe a few others.
Sorry. I didn’t know you guys take me so seriously.
Whatever dude. To call them THE band of our generation is perfectly logical. Yeah, we all like Phish better, and Phish are more versitile, and Phish have done more weird out-there shit, and Phish jam out their songs, and Phish have really widely varied setlists (sometimes)… but that doesn’t change the fact that if you select ten random people off the street ANYWHERE (except for Vermont) nine of them probably won’t have heard of Phish and only one won’t have heard of Pearl Jam.
As a band, Pearl Jam has immense importance and lasting impact.
If they or their music DIDN’T matter, they wouldn’t have survived DROPPING OUT of everything commercial and mainstream after the whole ticketmaster battle. If it DIDN’T matter, they wouldn’t have survived having nine people trampled at that show in Denmark in 2000. They quit after that, you know.
Sure, bitch about how PJ’s setlists aren’t as varied as Phish. Well, VERY FEW bands have such varied setlists. SFW??? PJ’s setlists are more varied than most other rock bands. Don’t think they do enough one-off random covers? Refer to this: http://www.pearljam.com/songs/songs.php
Honestly, the only band I can think of whose career rivals that of Pearl Jam and could even possibly compete for THE band of our generation is U2. And I don’t care if you like them either.
^to the mother fuckin’ streets.
U2 is also a great band. And since we’re talking about bands of the generation i’l like to list:
Pearl Jam
Radiohead
U2
i don’t think i can think of anymore bands that have transcended the past few generations as universally as those 3.
I was at that show!!! Fucking amazing.
I didn’t expect this out of this thread, but I’m glad it happened. Thanks for the school.
$29.99 @ wal-mart, eh? Considering a trip to that hole now. Funny this release is on PJ’s new label Monkeywrench - not necessarily indie distribution there, PJ!
Uh huh. I’ve always felt it’s what comes before Yellow Ledbetter that gives you some variation!
FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!
How anybody can say Ween is “THE band of our generation” is smoking something they shouldn’t be.
I love ya goldenroad, but Ween is not that good.
And they are ASSHOLES!
Just like Tool and all the other bands that people think are brilliant.
I’ve never understood the love of Ween. Meh.
If you look at Pearl Jam, they are the last band standing out of all the bands from the 90’s. Every other band that came out during that period has crashed and burned pretty much.
Now I’m not saying that they are the greatest thing ever, even the greatest of their time, I don’t listen to them that much, but there is something to say for their longevity.
They are doing something right.
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And I don’t put U2 in their catagory.
U2 is a band unto themselves.
And Pearl Jam is MUCH better the Radiohead.
Radiohead hasn’t made a good album since Kid A, and that wasn’t even that great.
^ Ween’s been around longer, so they must be doing something right-er.
I believe WEEN’s first album was in 1990.
So, yeah your right, they are by a year or 2.
But you really think that if there was a popular vote between PJ and Ween that Ween would get more votes?
And I’m not saying that just because PJ has been around long they are good. Just compared to the other bands of their time.
And yes, Ween had been around long so they are doing something right as well. Just different stokes for different folks.
Can’t wait to talk about this w/ you @ 10LKS! ;D
And for the record, Pearl Jam live shows are great as ICC said.
man, i need some cash!
i haven’t picked up a new PJ live release in a couple years.
^^ Yeah man, we’re gonna get drunk as fuck and start a good old Oh Kee Brawl. There’s nothing wrong with being into Pearl Jam, I can’t judge anyone for liking their new stuff as I used to love them more than anything. It’s just not for me anymore.
Waitress: Could you please keep your voices down–this is a family restaurant.
Walter Sobchak: Oh, please dear! I’ve got news for you: the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint!
The Dude: Walter, this isn’t a First Amendment thing.
Waitress: Sir, if you don’t calm down I’m going to have to ask you to leave.
Walter Sobchak: Lady, I got buddies who died face-down in the muck so you and I could enjoy this family restaurant!
The Dude: All right, I’m leaving. I’m sorry ma’am.
Walter Sobchak: Don’t run away from this, Dude! Goddamnit, this affects all of us!.. Our basic freedoms!.. I’m staying. Finishing my coffee… I’m Finishing my coffee.
i’ll prob check this out.
I like Ween more than Pearl Jam. ::shrugs::
This isn’t about who anyone personally likes more. It’s about a band having profound impact on rock and roll. Ween’s even more obscure than Phish.
Sorry I’m all fired up about this, but any attempt at denial that PJ is one of (if not THE) most important band to emerge from the 90’s is completely innane. Who else came out of the 90’s who’s still writing new material, still performing, still popular, still relevant, and still having fun doing what they’re doing? Sure, there are a few bands, but not many, and none as universally rock and roll as PJ.
U2 - How much does one have to pay to get a ticket to Pepsi presents U2?
Radiohead - Great music, great longevity, but much further toward the fringe than PJ.
Tool - Great music, great writing, even less universally appealing than Radiohead.
RHCP - Still great, but they opened for PJ, so what does that tell you?
Green Day - American Idiot is by far their crowning achievement, but is still a three piece sorta pop, sorta punk band.
Anyone else?
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