Roger Clemens , Hall o famer or juiced up jerkoff?

Non-Phish General
#15

And once he left “In the twilight of his career” he started pitching better than before (or maybe just on par as before, as he had a great start to his career). Yes, some of his numbers declined while on some crappy mid-90’s Sox teams, and then he found rejuvenation (in a bottle—allegedly), and then latched onto a great offense in the Yankees, thus solidifying deuchebaggery.

I have hated Roger since he left the Sox (or pushed out, depending who you ask), especially with the success he “found”. But the more I think about this whole debacle going on, the less I feel we can try the players in public opinion SOLELY BASED ON THIS REPORT. Is it damning, especially if true? Sure is. Is the evidence suspect? Sure is. Is everything printed in the report gospel? Not in the slightest. Is this the tip of the iceberg? Probably. Will I use this as ammo against my Yankee friends? Most definitely.

A: Jerkoff (probably juiced); potential HOF’er, depending how players of this era get treatment from the BBWAA.

#16

^No shit you noticed in the report that he didn’t start juicing up till he got to toronto? Maybe Dan Duquette was right that Roger was on the decline…At least until he started useing roids AFTER he left Boston

#17

I did notice that, and MIGHT have to start giving Duquette a little more credit, he did sign Manny and Pedro after all, and that turned out pretty well.

Yesterday morning before reading the report my uncle asked me if Roger was juicing while with the Sox and my kneejerk reply was no, probably once he left for Toronto. I guess that wasn’t so farfetched.

#18

Q4T

#19

“It should all count” meaning that everything noted in the Mitchell Report should count against the “offenders”?

I assume that’s what was meant, not “all the records should count”.

#20

#21

It begins.

#22

Roid rage or to much blow?

#23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuoLCZroKrg

This is actually fairly entertaining. Just watch.

#24

I’d have to go with juiced up jerk off but before the juice he was just a jerk off.

lol

Anyway he was an awesome pitcher before the roids so you can’t take that from him.

#25

it just sucks because theres still no hard evidence against anyone and there might not ever be

#26

Lest we not forget this fantastic piece of announcing:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9frdnvnfSTM

#27

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0712/mlb.mitchell.report/content.1.html

#28

That was for training! He listed “personal trainer” as occupation! He trained them all personally!

#29

Whatever helps ya sleep at night.

#30

sorry, insert [/sarcasm] ^^

#31

Oh I know.

He must have been one hell of a trainer.

Is that actually the defense being used?

They might as well use the Twinkie defense.

#32

Kick all these mofos out of baseball!

#33

Rumor has it strikeout-obsessed Roger Clemens, already the father of Koby, Kory, Kacy and Kody, is ready for his next two children, namely Kream and Klear.

#34

all his cy youngs with the red sox count but not with the stanks