Songs That Sound Better In The Studio

(note: when I make these comparisons, I’m comparing the recording of an album to the recording of a show, not the recording to an album to an EXPERIENCE of a show, because everything sounds better when you’re actually there.)

Most people prefer Phish live. With the majority of jam-oriented songs, I prefer them live as well (unless the studio version is so radically different that they can’t be compared; see studio Divided Sky and Sand). Some songs, though, really seem to gain no energy or substance in a concert setting. I hope I’m not alone. Which songs? Discuss. My picks:

–FEE–
If I haven’t said this a million bajillion times before, Fee is what got me into Phish. The flawless nature of the song was part of this; Trey’s vocals were perfect (AND HE SANG ALL THE RIGHT WORDS WHICH IS APPARENTLY REALLY HARD TO DO), the added guitar, guiro and triangle really added to the atmosphere, and Page’s piano sounds real and huge. The performance of the verses through a telephone-like distortion also adds a bit to to the distant, “storyteller” persona of Trey. (Trey in storyteller mode is one of the greatest things ever.)
In a live setting, the words are often botched, and the little ambient jam we get at the end really doesn’t contribute to the song IMO.

–LLAMA–
Sticking this right on the front of A Picture Of Nectar makes for one of the greatest album openers ever. It moves FAST. True, live Llamas move a bit faster, but in the process they drop more, and the weight it gains in the extra jamming doesn’t seem to justify that. Here, every note is hit, every word is coherent, and Phish is moving at the highest possible speed without missing a detail. Also, the engineering of A Picture Of Nectar is just beautiful; Fish’s kick drum shines here, and the organic acoustics of the whole album really lends something to the music.
And that last “TABOOT” in a pitchshifted voice is just too cool.

–JULIUS–
Horns and choir. I have nothing else to add.

–BILLY BREATHES–
Probably the most underrated Phish song, easily one of the best soft ballads they ever did. The album version is rich with detail they can’t get live; it starts with the deep final bass note coming out of Bliss, and moves into a song that keeps slowly flowing upwards, with vocal harmonization, marimba rolls, and things it’s tough to do live. Then the midsection; a banjo kicks in, and a beautiful, distant instrument I’m pretty sure is a distorted horn section adds to the lonesome, blissful nature of the song. Then it comes down to piano, a beautiful Mike solo, and Trey capping off the song with two guitar tracks.

–HEAVY THINGS–
When I first heard this, long before I knew what Phish was, I thought it was Barenaked Ladies.
Don’t take that as a bad thing, I think they’re great. One of the things about them I love is how intricate and energetic their studio production gets, and that’s what I heard in this song. There’s something doing something interesting at any moment in the song; about three guitars making a much more intricate sound, but nobody else in the band is resting either. In a live setting, Fish seems to move a bit too fast, the band can’t keep up, and they just crunch along the rhythm.

–BASICALLY EVERY SONG ON UNDERMIND EXCEPT THE TITLE TRACK–
Undermind is one of my favorite Phish albums. It’s very song-oriented, which I think is good if you’re making a record and not putting on a concert. Also, the production is very nice; multiple layers of everything, and spot-on vocals (as opposed to Round Room: Live And Poorly Edited). Then again, it’s hard to judge, because they barely played anything from this one at all.

Free

if you hand’nt already, i would say Billy Breathes as top contender. that song is just SO good on the album. live versions are really, really nice, but can’t capture that something that the studio version has.

i’m of the opinion that starting at the album Billy Breathes, Phish’s studio efforts became truly great things in and of themselves (not just studio versions of live songs) that could stand on their own merit. so, a lot of the songs that absolutely destroy live, i enjoy the studio versions just as much for their specific ambience.

I’m a huge fan of the studio work. For me, it’s rare that the studio version doesn’t encompass all that I love about the song. The singing is inevitably better, the tempo is just right. The jams on their albums (I’m thinking Llama, Tweezer, Divided Sky…) are usually great.

The Rift album in general has a weird sound to it … seems to lack oomph in Maze especially, and so that Maze is an exception for me. My favorite Maze (& I haven’t listened to it in a while) might be 12-31-92.

Tweezer though, that Nectar version has one of my all time favorite Phish jams, ever.

And how about Squirming Coil & Reba? Incredible versions of both of those.

I even like the Split Open & Melt studio better … who cares how long it lasts. The layered lead guitars, the frantic horns, the lady singer. Awesome.

Studio Bouncing is so much more silky smooth too … I wish Page would deliver that end vocal more like the studio version.

How bout studio Golgi?? You can’t beat that sh!t.

My kind of thread!

It’s a completely different song live.

Hmm, maybe I should make a topic about songs that aren’t the same live…

I could not agree more with Golgi. Thats not to say I dont go crazy when I hear that first note ring out live, it’s just the studio version is unmatched.

Julius

YEM

I love a live julius, but I ma going to have to agree with you on this one, the energy of the gospel singers at the end really blow the roof off that song, but I can stress enough that I LOVE a live Julius, the first phish song I ever saw was Julius.

Farmhouse.

Dirt.

I’m sorry, but I must respectfully disagree. See 6/20/04, among many others.

The production on Dirt is amazing. The string arrangement, the harmies, and Trey’s melodic playing are all top npotch. It’s as close to perfect a studio take the band has .

Another song I would throw out there, is the up-tempo version of strange design that was released as part of the European promo and left on the cutting room floor of Billy Breathes.

I really dig that studio take on the song much more than the slower version played live .

dirt is good

never heard a live eliza so i’d say eliza as well, ok well i checked and eliza hasn’t been played since 1992, it’s been 801 shows

now that would be a bust out and a half, though a crap ton of people would have no idea

Lengthwise…yeah it’s great when they bust it out live, but really it can’t compare with the studio version with the snoring and how the volume starts out so quite and it gets louder and louder with that perfect segue into Ice.

dirt and wading in the velvet sea

There are songs that are better in the studio?

Right now, most of Joy. But that’s changing.

^Wow. I was thinking this very thing today about Joy. Because it is new and I have listened to the album more than any live version, I have been thinking the songs sound sometimes awkward live. This may be partly true at this point, but it is also my ear. Right now I prefer the studio version of any Joy tune with the expectation that that will soon change for some of the songs.