The movie was great but i couldnt stand hearing Bales interp of Batmans voice! Other than that one of the best movies ive seen all year.
I haven’t looked at this thread once until today and I don’t really care for super hero movies, but I’ve heard from so many people that this movie is kickass. And it would be something fun to do for a night. so this might be the first movie I see in the theatres in years, I think since “Team America.”
I saw the other day. I thought it was really good except the storyline seemed a bit weak at points and there were a few things I didn’t understand so it would probably benefit from another viewing. Heath Ledger was great, but I think that the film itself might have been better if it was a bit shorter.
After 2 viewings of The Dark Night and like 100 viewings of the Original Batman…my assessment
Keaton > Bale
Nicholson = Ledger
Ledger is really damn good in this. He doesn’t do the Joker better than Jack, but he does it differently and just as good. Bale’s Batman voice is just too over-the-top, to the point where I expect him to tell me to “snap into a slim jim”.
^ You are wrong.
I agree with Bale’s batman voice being alittle too over the top, but it makes sense. He needs to hide his identity and he is huge celebrity if he used his normal voice everyone would know.
And for Heath’s joker vs. Jack playing himself in clown make-up, i don’t even think its close. Unless you’ve seen the original Batman 100 times and have an obvious bias.
Overarching themes throughout the dark night
- morals and ethics can make fighting a terrorist (the joker) difficult
- the joker is no longer a super villan, no he’s a terrorist now boys and girls, like Cobra?
- Torture is ok secretly and if done by Batman, how about Jack Bower too?
- " the line in the movie "Sometimes, in the past, democracies gave up there freedoms for a time to one man (Bush) (Batman) to protect them. CLASSIC!!
Very well done Propaganda piece if you ask me, a little CONDITIONING for the PG-13ers never hurt anybody… not to mention the smoldering buildings with the light done just right to evoke Sept, uh, well, I’ll skip that one boys and girls…
Love it… :
it seems like many of the movies from this summer have had a lot of social commentary, and I’m not a fan of that
I go to the movies to be entertained, not to get some underlying message from Hollywood about the state the country/world is in
There is so much fail in this post I don’t know where to begin. First, how can I be wrong about my opinion? Secondly, I don’t think a person with a Heath Ledger avatar can call someone else out as having a bias when it comes to Batman. Third, Jack is just a better actor than Heath Ledger, let’s look at awards recieved, and overall influence on other actors. Fourth, the Burton’s original Batman is around 20 years old and The Dark Knight is a few weeks old, so how can I be expected to have seen both movies an equal number of times?
I just don’t buy into fads like you do, and I don’t think that just because someone is recieving critical acclaim right now makes them the best ever at what they do. Heath Ledger has not recieved an Oscar nod for this and there was talk of Jack recieving a nomination at the time of the original Batman as well, and I’m sure if Jack died right after the original Batman he would have walked away with that Oscar no problem.
phew…::breeze::
So I was talking to my friend last night about who, if anyone, would be right & able to fill the shoes of the role of Joker in the next movie.
I’ve read interviews before Heath died that said the Joker was going to be in the third. So…
We came up with Johnny Depp.
He could totally do it.
The voice would be no problem and his looks would match up as well.
I said Crispin Glover, but then we decided he would be a good Riddler instead.
Anyway, what do you think?
Your life must really suck to have to look at everything through politics-colored glasses. Seriously, that’s not even an insult…you probably can’t help it. I feel sorry for you, bud. You’re never EVER going to be happy with the world.
And I agree on Johnny Depp doing a good Joker since he seems to do well with any quirky role like that. I thought he was great as Jack Sparrow and The Duke. Still, I’d imagine if they did have him, it’d be in a very small role…I wonder if they’d not even cast a new actor out of respect for what ledger did with the role. And supposedly Gary Oldman has mentioned the Riddler in a number of interviews so that seems like a good guess. They could do something with a really dark and twisted Riddler.
Stevo
I don’t think they’ll recast the Joker now that Ledger is dead. I have, however, heard of plans for Johnny Depp to play the Riddler in the next film. Which would be bad ass.
Of course, stupid hollywood gossip columnists are talking about how it would be a great idea to have Angelina Jolie play Catwoman. What a fucking stupid idea. Angelina Jolie sucks, first of all, and could never follow up a performance like Ledger’s successfully. And secondly, more importantly, the Catwoman movie was one of the biggest flops of all time, right up there with Days of Thunder. If you can’t sell tickets by putting Halle Berry in a Catwoman costume, then maybe the character just doesn’t have that much going on.
I think it would be quite disastrous for this new series of Batman movies to follow the ones that the Burton franchise did.
Catwoman in the film after the Joker is a mistake, IMO.
^Well it was that Joel Shumacher who ruined the first series. Once those Neon guys started popping up in Gotham’s underworld and the Batsuit had nipples, it was over.
Very true.
Who said I’m not happy?, very happy in fact. God, beautiful Fiance, Maui, 45 Phish shows over 9 years, many friends for over 20 years. Yep, nice and happy over here. However, my happiness doesn’t blind me to the realities of the world however horrible they can be at times.
^Well, you’re seeing propaganda that isn’t actually there…that would depress the crap out of me. Like I said before, you can’t help it but it just must suck sometimes. As great as your life is as you say, if you weren’t constantly deluding yourself, it could be better. And yeah, I know, I know…I’m the one who’s actually deluded and blind to what’s REALLY going on…I know…
Anyway…they need to leave Catwoman alone for now. Her character was never that great to begin with and while Michelle Pfieffer was okay in the 2nd movie, they don’t need to redo it. Putting in the Riddler sounds like a good idea. Maybe it’s me but I don’t like films with multiple villains…it just ends up as a big clusterfuck kind of like Spider Man 3 which was a disaster. They did it fairly well with Two-Face and Joker but I wouldn’t push your luck…I’d say one villain is usually more than enough to carry a movie.
Stevo
i’m not so sure about that, i def got some social commentary vibes from the movie, all the terrorist stuff and how they now make batman movies to be more realistic instead of comic book"y" to sell to a wider audience and throw their ideals/views at an audience that is there to escape (for the most part) everyday life into a realm of fantasy, i mean for christ’s sake, “Wall-E” was one big propagandeic social commentary movie
Seriously, what the fuck was Wall-E?
I still dont see the difference between ‘terrorist’ and ‘super-villian’… they both reign shit over whatever their goal is so… aren’t they fucking synonomous?
as for comic book genre of movie… all depends on whos directing, acting, etc… I see the Burton movies and the current run both entertaining in their own right, but i like the realistic stuff more because… yea technology kicks ass nowadays…
anyways GR is right about judging the movies especially since Dark Knight just came out and the future, but to say “Jack is just a better actor than Heath Ledger”… well Heath hasnt necessarily been around as long as Jacky boy right? so imo its kinda like judging the movies if your judging the actors…
but to the negativity around here lately, damn keep it fuckin breezy up in this beotch.
i think there’s a lot of propaganda in movies these days because movies always (for the most part) reflect the time they are made in. we live in fucked times.
and seriously, if you scratch the political surface, these times are even more fucked than we are led to believe.
but anyway, yeah. that’s why all the propaganda and shit.
bunnies! (re-restoring the breeze)