so who watched the debates tonight?
no words to describe how surreal…
I watched a little during halftime of the Pittsburgh/Southern Florida game (great game, BTW). With Palin it seemed like she had rehearsed everything she said in front of a mirror about 50 times before she came on stage…she seemed totally rehearsed. Biden was about as bad in that he seemed to be making up statistics on the spot and continuously repeated the same things over and over again. Not to mention that many times, both candidates, especially Palin didn’t answer the question or make a comment on what their opponent had just said at all and just used the time to just ramble on about some issue that was already covered. Plus I got annoyed by how they constantly smiled at each other…it was actually kind of creepy. I kind of feel that Biden could have ripped Palin apart more but didn’t because they he’d be accused of being a bully. In the end, I couldn’t take more than ten minutes of that crap and flipped to the Dodgers game instead. One of my favorite things is reading the fact-checking articles that people put up at the various new sites where they look up all the statistics and voting records that the candidates accuse each other of and basically show them for the lies they are…that always cracks me up. If that debate seriously changed the mind of anyone, then I’d be amazed. Also, I chugged a beer every time the words “change” “maverick” and “bridge to nowhere” were mentioned and I passed out within the first half-hour.
And on the point of candidates being the same, how’d you like to be a gay dude and watch Biden say “I am against gay marraige” and then see Palin say “I am against gay marraige”? GREAT CHOICES, PEOPLE!! Thanks so much!!
Stevo
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hmmmm, where have I heard this before???
P.S. the debate was so staged it might as well have been a rerun of Threes Company…silly really, I can’t believe they think we buy into this stuff still?? They are going to have a RUDE awakening someday…
i think that day is coming soon. i feel it in my guts.
I think you give America too much credit. There are millions who DO still buy that stuff. You guys have a long way to go…
Stevo
yet the numbers of folks who see right through the facade, or are finally beginning to, are increacing every day by leaps and bounds. it’s like a Truth Virus and it’s very contagious; and the more who catch it, the more that will catch it soon.
Bill passes and the Dow crumbles below 10000 down 500 points today…Hide your money under your matress people its gonna be a rough 5 years
Darn you and your positivity. I was about to argue that I doubt it’s that many folks and a majority of folks won’t ever understand, but who am I to cut down on such positive energy. Keep fighting, I suppose. Just don’t be surprised when us cynics don’t buy your theories and such.
Stevo
let’s talk solutions here peeps!
Stevo i have the feeling you’re maybe beginning to accept this somewhere deep down inside your cynical, doubting heart 
am i wrong here? the whole shebang has been designed to fool everyone, and on a large scale it has; and for a very long time too. but the house of cards is falling, right now in 2008. this is the “end of an era” we’re seeing here, and the beginning of true hope for all the people of the world. we CURRENTLY have the technology and the means to end all hunger, all poverty, all war on this planet. many have woken up and many are just beginning to, but it’s a force that cannot be stopped now. yeah it’ll probably get worse before it gets better, but if we can all (or as many as possible) put our energy into the right outlets, we can ease this transition. think BIG!
check it out:
watch both parts. “Addendum” has just been released and it is absolutely visionary.
Bump…
Go Bills!! (DOH!!!)
Stop considering and start DOING would be the logical choice. Better do be safe than sorry of course
Financial meltdown for dummies
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You kidding? BUY NOW. Prices are low and they’ll go up! People always freak out when things fall but I’d be shocked if this goes on for more than a weak. The market always takes care of itself.
Stevo
^You do realize members of congress ON CSPAN were threatened with “Martial Law on the Streets of America”, correct??
You OF COURSE realize that Jim Cramer is publicly stating that “ATMS will not work, not out of service not working, no you’ll go there and there won’t be any cash”-Last night on Mad money, go to the website and watch.
You do realize the newspapers, left and right media outlets are all calling the meltdown a potential depression.
Anyway the alternative media was predicting this years and years ago, when the mainstream media starts sounding like the alternative media there is a problem.
AGAIN, BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY IS WHAT I WAS ADVISING, because if the dollar continues to be devalued by rate cuts and trillion dollar debt the paper money in your pocket will become just that, PAPER. The gold will hedge against this forever.
In 1886 1 gold piece could buy one of the best suits in the country, in 2008 one gold piece (ounce) can STILL buy one of the best suits in the country = NO INFLATION FOR REAL VALUE
Go Bills!!! (Doh!!!)
Think cycles. This country went through shit like this at least twice before. In the late 1800’s didn’t they have to come down heavily on the likes of Carnegie and Vanderbilt because they were monopolizing industries, using their power and greed to control huge amounts of money.
So the government stepped in with regulation. Then the greed mongers went back to work to figure a way around the regulation, and lo and behold fifty years later, the stock market went belly up.
So the government stepped in with more regulation. Then the greed mongers went back to work to figure a way around the rgulation, and lo and behold, sixty years later you had the savings and loan scandal and the government had to bail out the S&L market with 2 billion dollars.
The cycle has been constrained now to twenty years (actually ten, if you consider the minor hiccup called the dot.com fiasco), but it’s certainly understandable because of the speed with which information and money is transferred in this new electronic environment.
Only this time, because our economy has become so integrated into this “world economy”, it’s taking more than just our government regulation, bailouts, and nationalization of the banking to get things back on track. This is a major re-adjustment of asset, and the middle class in this country will, as probably it should, be adjusted downward to meet the value of the middle class in other countries around the world.
Even though I’ve lost a considerable amount of the paper value of my 401K accounts, and at this point in my life should be worried about this, I can’t deny that I think this may be a good thing to stop the societal glut for material possessions that is a cultural weakness in my mind.
I’ve always thought that if we just stopped looking to buy things all the time, we might actually find some real time to enjoy the things that are free to us, like walks in the park with family and friends, and Sunday afternoon meals with people that you love.
I don’t know. But if you’re not one of the greed mongers, I don’t see how this meltdown can really make you ultimately unhappy.
More on the political intrigue surrounding the meltdown…
Dominic Lawson: Democrat fingerprints are all over the financial crisis
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/dominic-lawson-democrat-fingerprints-are-all-over-the-financial-crisis-949653.html
Friday, 3 October 2008
Of all the characteristics of a successful politician, none is more essential than bare-faced cheek. Never has this been more evident than in the past fortnight, as senior Democrat members of the US legislature have sought to lay all the blame for the country’s financial crisis on the executive arm of Government and Wall Street.
Neither of these two institutions is blameless
hey ICC, one of those vids is from the Onion, which is satire. it ain’t far from the truth though. but i just wanted to let you know cause i’m not sure if you knew that.
those MTV ads are reeeeeaally bizarre! i mean just fucked. are those real?
haha…