my interest in this subject has grown lately. not sure why, perhaps it was some random video i viewed on youtube or something, which led to a more thorough search. there are certainly fakes out there, but then there are the ones that can’t be so easily dismissed. a couple examples:
also, i find it highly improbable that some of the extremely intricate and geometrically advanced crop circles that we’ve seen could have been created perfectly by a handful of people with nothing but ropes and boards overnight. i know some rudimentary ones have been made as examples to debunk the alien theory, but from what i’ve read the “authentic” crop circles have a distinct “braided” pattern woven into the stalks of the wheat or corn, and that rodents that have been found dead in or nearby the circles showed the same braiding in their fur. not to mention people with ropes and boards would never be able to come close to the ashtetic detail of some of these things, and on top of that it would take many, many hours to accomplish where these things seem to pop up overnight.
so whaddaya think? are we alone in the universe, or might we have some special visitors? and if so, what might they be trying to tell us?
I’m gonna go with Give me a fucking break. You seriously don’t think there would be any legitmate recorded encounters or even just legitimate videos or anything of aliens if they have been to this planet enough times to make all these bloody crop circles, and cow mutilations and anal probings. Seriously…Everyone has their fucking camera on them all the time at this point, if they exist, show me, prove it.
Until I see some hard evidence, I’m calling bullshit. Same with Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Leprechauns and Unicorns. You can’t show me a pile of presents under a tree and call that proof. That’s all crop circles are, a pile of presents under the tree.
well, i actually think there’s plenty of video evidence if you look for it. some of it official (as in recorded from satellites and space stations). as well as documented testimonies by high ranking gov’t, military and NASA personelle. as well as thousands of reported sightings by people all over the world.
i realize not everything you can read or watch or hear on the subject is going to be 100% truth, but i certainly don’t believe it’s all bullshit either.
i dunno man, it’s hard to simply dismiss the possibility given the amount of evidence that is out there. and there’s plenty. there’s a lot we don’t know, and i think there’s a lot that the general public isn’t “permitted” to know by the powers that be. though there are many out there who risk their jobs, thier reputations and their lives trying to get the word out.
Dude…my friends are idiots so I’ve seen almost every UFO/Alien Autopsy/Cropcircle in the making video you can imagine. They are all crap and none of them are very “official”. It’s usually some bright light in the horizon, probably from a vehicle on the road, or some floating thing in the sky, but then the camera will start shaking so it looks like its moving in the sky.
No, I mean like a real good quality, indisputable video. Not just, “Oh I guess that could be a UFO” type crap. I do believe that there may be life “out there”, as there are billions of stars and some of them must have a solar system similar to ours, but I in no way believe that there are any aliens visiting earth and making circular designs in fields, or abducting a bunch of hillbillies and performing anal insertions. You don’t think there is any correlation between the most “UFO sightings” happening in Texas and that also being the state with the most drive-thru liquor stores?
Hell, I’ve seen UFO’s before. Just because I see something in the sky that I can’t explain, does not mean that someone from another planet is hovering up there. Just because something is “Unidentified”, that doesn’t mean it’s from another planet.
It’s just something like religion or ouija boards or santa claus. If you believe in it, then it’s real I guess.
and I think its pretty close-minded to think there isn’t a planet somewhere in the thousands of galaxies that could sustain life. But, I’m not sure if they have visited us for sure, or even if they would have the resources to do that kind of thing.
I just don’t know about UFOs. I kind of believe that there IS likely life on other planets but I don’t really believe that they’ve ever come here. I mean, look at all the assumptions of UFOs:
We always assume that they have VASTLY greater technology than us - Why would this happen? Supposedly the whole universe was created all at once. Why would one alien race be SO much more advanced than any other? How do we know that WE aren’t the most advanced planet in the universe? I’d say we’re doing pretty well.
UFOs ALWAYS come during nighttime - I’ve never heard of a single story of one coming during the day. Why would they care about when they arrive? If they REALLY wanted to hide their presence they’d turn off all the bright lights and crap on their ships.
UFOs never do ANYTHING - I mean EVER. Every story about them is people see them and then they go away. They never land anywhere, they never attack anyone, they never do anything aside from the occasional abduction story. Apparently every UFO ever just floats high in the sky and then disappears. Why would anyone do that? If it was humans arriving on another planet, they’d instantly land and start wandering around and checking stuff out and might even try to communicate with the locals. This is except for when they randomly make symbols in crop fields in the middle of the night with no one noticing them making the symbols. Let’s just say that I think a lot of farmers have WAAAAY too much time on their hands.
Aliens ALWAYS kidnap people and do anal probes - Why do they capture people and release them? Why wouldn’t they just keep their specimans? And what’s with the anal probes? In theory, they don’t even know what body part it is. If it was US capturing aliens, I guarantee that we wouldn’t be returning them so they could tell their friends about it.
UFOs NEVER show up around major cities - They always show up in rural Kansas or in some farm field where there’s ONE guy within a 50 mile radius of where the UFO landed. And you never see a major news network discover these aliens. Not once. If aliens don’t know anything about Earth, then why would they care where they land? Oh, and by the way…why don’t radars EVER pick them up?
People always assume that aliens look humanoid just like us but with weird shaped heads - Why are aliens always looking like that? Why aren’t there stories of aliens that look like the ones from the movie Alien? Or of aliens that crawl on all-fours or have their heads where their butts would be? It’s ALWAYS the same humanoid alien. And also why wouldn’t they look exactly like us? What if life is exactly the same on all planets and they just speak different languages or whatever. You never hear of that theory. And why do they always assume that aliens have NO problem breathing on our planet? I’ve never heard of an alien wearing a space suit.
Why don’t we EVER find satellites or space probes coming our way? I mean we’ve sent out throusands of satellites and probes out into space that are just out there floating randomly. We’ve NEVER seen one coming from an another planet. Wouldn’t it be normal for a planet to send out an unmanned satellite before they have the technology to fly to other planets? It would VERY smart for them to monitor another planet via a satellite before they ever attempt coming here. Why haven’t we seen ANY of these?
UFOs are ALWAYS some disc-shaped ship. - ALWAYS. They never have sleek rectangular ships or shuttles or standard-looking planes. It’s ALWAYS a disc.
People always assume that normal physics NEVER apply to UFOs -They always sail away at a billion miles per hour and can zoom up and down without any propulsion. They may be aliens but it don’t mean that basics physics still don’t apply to them. They still need basic propulsion like any ship but you never hear about that. Even the ships on Star Trek and Star Wars needed propulsion.
And that’s the worst thing…ALL of the excuses that people make for why we can’t see UFOs…cloaking devices, warp-speed, etc etc…these ALL come from Star Trek or Star Wars. ALL of these excuses. These people are just spewing things from a movie and don’t even know it.
There’s just FAR too many holes in these stories of UFOs. I don’t buy em. But it’s fun to imagine and wonder “what if” but it’s mostly best to make fun of them.
Don’t believe necessarily in UFOs, but I do believe in ETs. The statistical probability is too great not to believe there is life somewhere out there. Whether that life form has developed the technology and the motivation to come here is another story entirely.
If there is a LF smart enough to travel here in real time (whatever that is), then they would be smart enough to monitor us without letting themselves be observed. And once they observed us, they would high tail it the hell back where they came from, because we’re just to screwed up for any intelligent race to want to have anything to do with us.
I guess I was a bit hasty in my initial response, because I do believe that there must be life out there somewhere, but I’m just saying I don’t believe all these kooks and “former NASA/Area 51 employees”, who say they’ve witnessed extraterrestial life on this planet, but not one of them can provide any kind of actual evidence.
This also got me thinking, if all these beings are extra terrestrial, does that make us terrestials?
i saw some crazy shit in the sky above a bridge near my town about 6 years ago and i am a fucking believer. people say seeing is believing and i have no doubt that what i say was other-worldly and i will fight anybody who doesn’t believe me.
i’d say that we are advancing technologically at an exponential rate, yet we have no idea how to respect the power that comes from this advancement. we use this advancement to build bigger computers, better cars and mostly more deadly weapons, yet we can’t find a way to curb famine? i dunno, i guess that’s not really part of the conversation here. my real point is: if the universe is billions of years old, and human beings are at best a couple hundred thousand years old, and the vast majority of our technological leap has only happened w/in the last 50 or so years, why wouldn’t/couldn’t there be older or simply more advanced civilizations out there? i mean, even ancient human civilizations, such as the mayans and the egyptians seemed to believe in UFO’s and strange visitors. at least they depict some pretty classic images in thier hyroglifics.
i don’t think they necesarilly always try to hide their precence. daytime sightings:
seriously? did you look at those pictures in my first post? you think a farmer did those? okay, if you say so. i’ve also seen the videos of people making crop circles w/ ropes and boards. so it can be done. the only thing is though they can be pretty cool looking, the human-made ones are geometrically imperfect, they take many, many hours and sometimes days to complete and the corn or wheat is simply crushed and flattened down. the authentic (meaning: no solid human-made explanation) crop circles seem to appear overnight, are absolutely perfect geometrically (not to mention some of the patterns we see are fractal. WAY too intricate and detailed to pull off with such simple tools), and the stalks are braided, not just crushed down. i may be naiive but i just don’t think some farmer somewhere has that kind of capability.
do they? always? i mean i’m asking. i don’t have any idea what they do or don’t do. but i don’t believe every single account of abduction is false. nor do i believe they are all true. unfortuantely sci fi movies and tabloid papers have rendered the subject just too rediculous to believe for most people, but i think there might be some degree of truth to abduction. but i guess actually i really don’t know. i’ll just shut up about this now.
it’s funny, Fox News is usually the last place i’d ever go for imformation of any kind at all, but i’m just kinda posting these things as i find em.
maybe, if they exist, aaaand if they’ve been seen by people…that’s what they look like? human-like. maybe the human-like design just works. again, i’m just throwing it out there. not saying YES or NO in a black/white fashion, just keeping an open mind.
do you know for sure we have never seen non-earth satellites or space probes? i don’t know that we have or haven’t, i’m asking you. i mean, i never have or anything, but maybe others have seen such things. here’s some UFO footage from NASA though:
People always assume that normal physics NEVER apply to UFOs -They always sail away at a billion miles per hour and can zoom up and down without any propulsion. They may be aliens but it don’t mean that basics physics still don’t apply to them. They still need basic propulsion like any ship but you never hear about that. Even the ships on Star Trek and Star Wars needed propulsion.
And that’s the worst thing…ALL of the excuses that people make for why we can’t see UFOs…cloaking devices, warp-speed, etc etc…these ALL come from Star Trek or Star Wars. ALL of these excuses. These people are just spewing things from a movie and don’t even know it.
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well, all i can say is that if UFO’s exist, and they visit us, the technology they have is probably pretty advanced and can maybe do things we here on earth are not yet capable of. it wasn’t long ago that airplanes, television and something like the internet was inconcievable, and look at us now…we’re goin to the moon!
in my opinion, we just don’t have the whole story yet. maybe we never will. it’s a fascinating topic though with enough evidence to fill in maybe some of those holes a little. definately the questions far outweigh the answers, but answering “bullshit just because i say so” dosen’t actually answer anything ;D
Interestingly, it was only 10 or so years ago that the government admitted that Area 51 existed. Prior to this, the government would not verify it was an actual place, therefore implying that no rules, laws or otherwise applied to the Area. In every single picture taken of Area 51, there is someone in a jeep, watching the photographer in the background…look for some on google. Recently, it has been disclosed that Area 51 has been moved…To where, eh, no one knows…
