ah, c’mon goldenroad! -you don’t see my point? I wrote like a whole bunch of paragraphs trying to explain it! lol, but i might stand corrected. I completely forgot about Bill & ted! Doesn’t Marty mcFly play guitar too?
^ Yeah, but that was like back in the 50s or something.
^^^exactly my point. When he busted out Johnny B Goode at the prom, those people were astonished at wtf they were listening too. Not only can music not go forward in time, it can’t go backwards either!
^Well, initially Marty never amounted to anything musically because he hit that Rolls Royce while drag racing with Needles. But he changed that, and left the future open, so perhaps. Maybe he joined the Wild Stallyns later on in the mix.
yeah, but I bet you that Biff shows up at the Wild Stallyn’s 1st concert while Marty’s playing guitar and says,
“McFly! MCFLY!! your shoe’s untied MCFLY!”
Marty falls for it and looks down and…BAM!!! -Biff knocks him unconscious with a vicious bitch-slap
CONCERT OVER!!!
i see your point, and i think that except for the relatively few true future-appreciators of old-ass music, most will have little to no idea who the legends of our times were. and that’s natural. it’s the nature of change. i mean, how much 19th century stuff do you listen to now? the stuff that preceded the blues, which preceded rock and roll and on down the line?
i’m currently in a “folk band”. i never thought i would be in such a band because music that i would define as “folk” was completely irrelevant to me. but through being in this band i’ve discoered some really great music that i wouldn’t have given the time of day a year ago. music that’s been largely forgotten by the masses, but is yet still “alive” among the few. so maybe the Grateful Dead or Elvis won’t be a houshold name in 100 years, but there will be the few keeping the flame going and that music might just hit the right set of ears and spawn a whole new future/past genre. in fact i’d bet on it. music is not only revolutionary, but evolutionary and nothing stays the same. it’s the name of the game to change. phish understood this better than anyone i think.
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Okay, I guess I see your point, KR, but your point is based on a few assumptions that I disagree with…mainly that no one even listens to the Beatles or Elvis anymore. I listen to Vivaldi, Bach and Handle still and that music is around 400 years old. Many people do too; people that appreciate music.
There will always be people around who appreciate good music for being good music and not because it is the most recent “fad” in music. These people have never made up the majority of the population, and I’m quite certain they never will, but if there is just one person who is listening to Elvis in another 1000 years, I’ll consider that music to have survived. I’m sure 500 years ago, when people were actually listening to Bach perform his own concertos, there were many people saying “It’s good, but will it stand the test of time?”. I’m not saying that Bach’s music is going to still be played all over the world in another 500 years, but to write it off as a fad and say that the only reason that Symphony’s performing the works of Bach are still around is because this Baroque music thing is just a recent trend in popular music, is pretty dismissive.
Also, you can argue that the Dead are bigger now than when Jerry was alive. Look at all these different bands that have careers based on the Dead’s success, like Phil, Ratdog, Mickey, Donna and the Tricksters, and Dark Star Orchestra, not to mention the countless other Dead cover bands. Same could be said for Elvis, just look at the Elvis impersonator industry in Vegas, and hell, every town in North America probably has one guy that makes it big just as an Elvis impersonator. Does that really speak volumes about Elvis’ music? Maybe not, but so long as there are people listening, I don’t think that the music can die.
Also, keep in mind that recorded music has only been around since the beginning of the 20th century, and only in a mass produced type way since probably 50-60 years ago. I don’t find it hard to believe that music from the last 50 years has the potential to live on longer than any music created at any other point in time, for this very reason.
Man, I should probably do some work.
I dont think that the fact that bands fade in and out of the public’s interest is as much a testament to the band’s skill as it is to consumerist culture. It’s the popular culture of these days, to get what’s new. It doesn’t matter if it’s better or not, just has to be new.
That’s true w/ technology and such, but I don’t think it’s entirely accurate w/ music.
I think it’s true for pop music (basically anything that MTV plays), outside of that it’s not as true.
I think what you said is true for all music fluffy. Everyone gets tired of a certain song or album or band eventually. If you listen to the same thing long enough you get tired of it–it’s that simple. That said, the band that will stand the test of time is not necessarily making ‘the best music’ (how could you decide something like that in the first place?) but is able to change their sound enough to keep you listening. For my own listening, I am the one who chooses how long I am into a certain band. If I overplay their stuff they won’t last long. If I show restraint and treat myself to lots of different stuff and don’t burn out on one sound I can hold on to a band for much longer.
once the apocalypse comes, there will be no music.
^haha
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Classical and Jazz will/are enduring and assimilating with modern musics.
These guys will be legends forever!
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Midget Kiss.
Epic.
^ Now that’s pretty kickass.
lmao!
midget kiss FTW!!!
I think there are less true music fans these day in general. Back in the day a lot of music is fresh and new and that excited a lot of people…nowadays people are truly running out of ways to make to do something different. The most memorable artist nowadays is Kid Rock who I kind of like but he’s basically just doing the same rock music that many bands already did in the 70’s and such.
Overall, kids don’t even like bands anymore anyway. They like songs. The number of kids who buy a whole album nowadays is ridiculously small. Kids will hear a song on a commercial or a TV show, get online and download it and listen to it 30 times a day and then tell you that they’re the kid’s favorite band. Then you ask if they’ve heard any other songs or know anything about the band and they’ll say no. So while SONGS may live forever, some bands are not. It will take FOREVER for people to forget a song like the Macarena but who the heck remembers who did it?
As for Elvis, I can say I own a ton of his albums…same with the Beatles. And I own every Floyd, Zeppelin and Doors album and often listen to an entire band’s catalog in a row. I own every Talking Heads, Phish and a few others. But some bands like Dave Matthews, String Cheese and such I only own live albums…why hear watered-down studio versions of these songs when i can hear them in all their live glory? To me, live music is ALWAYS the key…if a band can’t showcase something live, then what good are they. Yes, I still like some bands who can’t do their stuff live but they’ve got to be very special or unique for me to be interested.
Overall, the day of the “band” is dead…especially since so few bands can play live at all. We’re already seeing what happened to many bands in the 80’s…they’re long gone and forgotten and are reduced to being an mp3 on my computer that I listen to once in a while. Back then, people swore that bands like Frankie Goes to Hollywood would be around forever. It’s just not the case.
Sadly, music has changed because people are impatient and don’t have “time” to listen to a whole album or go to a concert. Plus the MTV era has ruined music forever since most artists can’t even get recognized unless they’re “good-looking” and some kids can’t even like a song until they see a music video for it. Sadly all we can do is try to remind those of bands that were great and knew how to actually play their instruments. And thankfully, with Satellite radio and local public and classic rock and oldies stations, these songs will never be truly forgotten. People just have to know to look for it…
Stevo
I think you are being too pessimistic Stevo. Sure some people just listen to snippets and might really only be enjoying songs, but there are still a lot of good bands that still produce good albums. I just don’t think its happening in the “rock” genre like it used to years ago. You just gotta start lookin around maaaan.