A show with Esther is just fine by me!
thelot, how can you say 8.9 is sloppy and 7.28 is not?
haha that’s unpossible!
They slopped through most of those bustouts on 7.28
Right.
The difference is that they were kickin’ it down in KS and VA Beach was all shit that they had played before sans encore.
They shouldn’t be sloppin’ it up for shit that they had been playing ALL tour.
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I’m confused.
Regarding 7/28: the fact that they were playing a bunch of kick downs offsets the sloppiness?
And then on 8/9, the sloppiness is called out because they had already played the songs (which I can see your point).
Correct.
Is 11-02-98 considered epic?
Yes.
Is DSOTM sloppy as hell.
Yes.
Still a good show?
Yes.
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The opening trio of 1998-11-02 makes up for any faults.
This brings up quite the conundrum:
Does one prefer bustouts/kickdowns regardless of how they’re played (sloppy, missing a verse, etc.)?
Or would one rather prefer tightly played Phish staples and no bustouts?
yeah, I understand that point. (aug’s point about sloppiness and bustouts)
I’ve never considered 8.9 particularly sloppy, but I suppose I’ve only listened a few times, and looking at the middle of that second set, I can feel the let-down without even listening.
Personally, some of my favorite shows have really boring setlists on paper but are played really well.
The first set of 07-28-1998 is not very sloppy, btw.
Take Vegas 'oo, for example…
09-29-2000 is a Top 5 attended for me.
It includes major kickdowns like Spock’s and D & M plus the Kid Rock appearance, but the entire show is TIGHT as hell.
09-30-2000 is probably in the bottom ten for me even though it had MANY more kicks, they were just sloppy all night.
On paper, 09-30 trumps 09-29, but for me, I’m all about solid playing.
Also, I don’t think 08-09-1998 is sloppy enough where it kills the show, but the lack of flow and setlist selection really kill it for me.
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Phish
May 12, 1991
The Front,
Burlington, VT
Taped By: Dave Schanker w/ Dan O’Neals Rig
Source: Schoeps CMC4/MK4->ORTF->Oade Cap Coupled Supply->Panasonic SV255 Source Dat->Cass/0
Transfer: Yamaha KX-R470 > DSP24 > Wavelab > FLAC16
Thanks to Todd Ahrens for the source tapes!
Transfer, mastering, and FLAC16 by: Marmar (Art H.)- imthemarmar@gmail.com
Set I:
Chalk Dust Torture
Bouncing Around the Room
Dinner and a Movie
Stash
The Lizards
The Landlady >
Destiny Unbound
Llama
Fee
Foam
Runaway Jim
Set II:
HFB Intro > David Bowie
Bathtub Gin
Poor Heart
The Curtain
Golgi Apparatus
Magilla
Mike’s Song >
I Am Hydrogen >
Weekapaug Groove
The Squirming Coil
The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony >
AC/DC Bag >
Rocky Top
Encore:
Run Like an Antelope
Show Notes:
- Stash, Destiny Unbound, Llama, Magilla, Mike’s Song, Hydrogen, AC/DC Bag, Rocky Top, and Antelope featured Dave Grippo.
- Mike’s Song featured The Dude of Life on vocals, who added several verses.
- Page began Hydrogen on a Casio synthesizer, adding a humorous touch to the last Phish show at The Front.
ahh nothing like some Phish food & 12/11/97 Waste solo. Possibly the most beautiful performance Phish ever did, that Waste. The piano & guitar solos, Mike, Fish, I mean it’s flawless, a thing of absolute beauty.
^meh. If a Waste jam is the best thing Phish ever did, well, then you haven’t heard enough Phish.
Or that may be just personal preference and opinion.
In that case, nevermind.
^then again you are “post hiatus guy” and if post hiatus jams are the best jams phish ever did then you havent heard enough phish. so there.
you are misled
I don’t think that at all, it is only a reference to my noobittity in terms of when I saw the band
I’m downloading again! Its been too long.
Picked up some much needed fall '96 to add to my collection. Downloading a Ween show from WEdnesday night right now.
phish
charlotte coliseum
charlotte, nc
1996-10-26
set 1 (~65 min.)
disc 1
Julius, Cars Trucks and Buses, Wolfman’s Brother, Reba, Train Song, Character Zero, It’s Ice,
Theme From the Bottom, Sample in a Jar
set 2 (~87 min.)
disc 2
Down with Disease, You Enjoy Myself, Sparkle, Simple, McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters,
Waste, Run Like an Antelope*, E: Fire (encore tracked at the end of disc 1)
*Dedicated to Fishman’s cousin, Jason Roberts for winning a guitar competition and with
“Star Spangled Banner” and “Spooky” teases.
listening to the filler from LP 10- Antelope
niceness
Thats funny. I was just thinking, “man I havent listened to Phish in a couple weeks…and 96 is a year I often overlook”
So I went with this one.
11-27-96 Key Arena, Seattle, WA
1: Julius-> My Friend My Friend-> Ya Mar, Chalk Dust Torture, The Sloth, Uncle Pen, Free-> Theme From the Bottom, Bold as Love
2: Down With Disease-> Jesus Just Left Chicago-> Scent of a Mule*, Tweezer**-> Down With Disease Jam, The Star Spangled Banner, Fire
E: Waste, Tweezer Reprise
i know. i just felt like calling you out.
I’m rockin’ this show today at work first. I wish I had 10.15.95 too. Might listen to 8.6.97 later for the first time.
10-14-95 Austin Music Hall, Austin, TX
Sound Check: Dog Log
1: AC/DC Bag, Cars Trucks Buses, Kung, Free, Sparkle, Stash, Catapult, Sparkle, Acoustic Army, It’s Ice, Tela, Runaway Jim
2: Reba, Rift, You Enjoy Myself*, Hello Ma Baby, Scent Of A Mule, Cavern
E: A Day In the Life
*With Medeski Martin and Wood, and Dominic Falco on trumpet. Trey played both guitar and mini drum set up front. Mike played bass and some kind of horn at the end of the jam. Fish played vaccum and trombone. Billy Martin played Fish’s drums. Medeski and Page played keyboards and Page did vocal jamming at the end. Chris Wood played a bizzare one string stand up bass with a bow.
That YEM is unbelievable.