Where is thnkfrstpal on this Blagojevich Nonsense?

Non-Phish General
#1

Where is all the reflection on voting for Obama for “CHANGE” in the light of this Blagojevich horseshit? Change my ass. This group of creeps and bullshit artists put it over on this country so well, that they thought they could just continue their nonsense of selling Senate seats without impunity.

Yeah, Obama swears he didn’t know anything about Blagojevich’s illegal activities. Believe that if you want, but not when his White House Chief of Fricken Staff is about to be supeonaed by the Grand Jury on this mess. Rahm Emmanuel and Blagojevich go back away together, and even though there’s probably no “real” evidence Obama knew nothing about it, if you believe not, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Illinois politics is, as it’s always been, second only to the dishonesty and criminality of NJ and maybe LA. And Obama was born out of that corruption, he could not have surfaced to the level he did without the help and knowledge of it. But the media and hollywood poured tons of help to avert everyone’s eyes away from this stuff, and THAT’s the real danger surrounding November’s results.

So choose to believe that the president elect is "more honest’ more refeshing, more atune to your personal interest if you like. But the truth is, he’s as criminal as Bush, and the only real difference is that his words are more pleasing to your ear and emotions.

About the white house chief of staff elect emmanuel from wikipedia…

After serving as an advisor to Bill Clinton, in 1998 Emanuel resigned from his position in the Clinton administration. He then became an investment banker at Wasserstein Perella, (now Dresdner Kleinwort), where he worked until 2002.[27] In 1999, he became a managing director at the firm

#2

with all that being said and as much as i distrust anybody in a suit or on TV at this point, especially and particularly in politics and as much as I would like to see more than two real choices on the ballot and as much as i would like to see all of it go away and have the world be just a bunch of people living together;

I’m still glad Obama won instead of McCain

But there will never ever be a shortage of bullshit in this world, especially in politics. Never. Even when these people tell the truth they’re full of shit. It’s something that happens. Sharks eat cute little seals, volcanoes erupt and destroy villages, tectonic plates move causing earthquakes in parts of the world, birds migrate south for the winter, and politicians sling bullshit day and night. It’s something you have to accept at this point before you go insane.

It’s like Neil says:

“don’t let it bring you down”

#3

And, it’s like my granddaddy used to say, he used to say, “I’m goin upstairs, f*ck yer grandmother.”

(George Carlin)

#4

Don’t encourage him, please.

#5

Politics corrupts everything it touches. ANARCHY FOREVEERRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr

#6

Anarchy will be just that… Anarchy. Not my cup of tea. Restoring the republic from the clutches of the banker globalists IS however my cup of tea

As for the Obamanation and his “pal”, I’m much more concerned with the “smart meters” Obama wants to install on everyones homes and the Carbon Tax and the fart tax and the “green” public works projects that will regulate and enforce more BS while the congress, Gore and Obama don’t get regulated at all. Not to mention the pretext to invade Pakistan with the “terror” attacks in India and EXPAND the fake war on terror.

The only reason this friend of Obamas even got caught was because the globalists decided to take him out, same with Spitzer, as soon as he started going after the bankers BAM prostitution bust. Don’t get me wrong these guys are SCUM, but if you think the feds and Obama JUST found out about all of this you must still believe in Santa.

Obama/Mccain one and the same baby. YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN.

#7

hey tfp, care to email me a pdf of your latest local newspaper that you publish?
I’d love to take a look at your work

#8

^yur funny!!!

#9

I am also dissappointed by Obama’s change slogan. I am unhappy and wish my life would change. I saw Mr. Obama on television and he had these big posters that said “change” and he said “change” all the time when he was talking, and after seeing that so many times I was like “yeah, change.” Yet I have still not gotten laid since I voted for him.

This is worse than when I bought Snuggle brand fabric softener and that cute little bear never showed up. I still have faith in America, and I hope to someday use the internet to find a product that will fulfill its promise of filling my empty heart.

#10

^awesome.

#11

Well, 5 of the last 8 Governors in Illinois have been put away.
This is nothing new. Democrat & Republican.
Its the way we do things here. :wink:
We all hated Blago anyway, he was not gonna be re-elected.

The only thing that hasn’t really been discussed is what was illegal.
Just saying that you’d take money isn’t illegal.
You can say anything, did he actually GET money?

I think the D.A. jumped the gun and might have ruined the case all for the protection of this senate seat.

Blago is not gonna be Governor anymore, but I don’t know if he will be convicted of a crime.
Again, saying something is different then actually DOING it.
I think the guy is a dick, but I also have little faith in our court system to get justice…
There are so many little technical things that rich people can do.
I’ll never understand it.
I just don’t know what is the ACTUAL crime they are gonna put him on trial for.
I don’t think anybody does.

Where do you come up with this stuff Fone?
You are just slinging mud bud,…so scared and paranoid.

#12

^Alternatively, you might be to trusting and optimistic.

#13

^^ I guess it’s just the rantings of an old man who believes no one can become president without selling his soul to the devils. It’s systematic to the process of becoming and maintaining the position, and so is the payback. Case in point, Secretary of State Clinton.

The Emmanuel and Blagojevich connection is a matter of record, and to close ones’ eyes to the possibility that at least Emmanuel knew and would not brief Obama concerning it, isn’t parnoia as much as it is typical politics.

The message that I’m trying to get across is that it’s kind of silly to believe that Obama is above all of the dirty politics just because he strokes you where you live. He’s proven nothing more than being more emeshed in typical Illinois and Washington politics than McCain ever was. This is not saying that McCain would make a better president, this is saying that Obama’s main campain message, the one that everyone believed in was horseshit, and that you’re really not getting any more change than you have a guy a little left of center in the White House, than a little right of center. All things else will be pretty much status quo except maybe for Obama’s eloquence.

We’ve really just re-elected Bill Clinton, and that’s Ok because the country swings back and forth because of a dis-satisfaction with its presidents. Clinton was elected because the country was fed up with Bush 41. Bush 43 was elected because the country was fed up with Clinton. Obama was elected because the country was fed up with Bush 43. The pattern is basically saying we just don’t like any presidents. And the only reason the same clowns in the legislature get re-elected year after year is because the majority of people don’t have enough time to care about them.

The process is broken when we elect people for high office based on popularity, image, and money, and not on qualifications or accomplishments. And this is not mud slinging, but it is fear.

#14

I agree that the process is broken, but give the guy a chance before you call him a criminal and a do nothing.
He’s not even president yet for christ sake and your already saying his campaign message won’t be fullfilled. :-/

I love ya fone, have SOME patience with the guy.

What has PROVEN that? Seriously?

thnkfrstpal:

Yeah, cause its so bad to have faith in people and hope for the best. ::slight_smile:

thnkfrstpal, you just showed your true colors right there.
I know exactly the kind of person you are.
Nothing more then a scared little boy.
I bet you’d be the first to crack under questioning as well.

#15

If the New World Order was in charge, then Blagojevich would have been powerbombed through a table. Maybe TWO tables.

All hail the NWO!! 4 Life!!

#16

" I guess it’s just the rantings of an old man who believes no one can become president without selling his soul to the devils. It’s systematic to the process of becoming and maintaining the position, and so is the payback. "

If you believe you can’t become president without selling your soul, how are you going to get pissed off when your politicians have no soul? Looks like you’re setting your self up to be angry.

#17

^^Oh there in control all right, for the time being…

If you ask the farmers in CHINA or the people in Mexico who’s in charge and why do they think there country is messed up they’ll tell you the BANKSTERS, ELITE etc…

#18

Read last night that MANY of the Messiah’s campaign promises will be put “aside” while he works on other things…

Maybe he is more corrupt then we all think?

Or maybe he is really smart…

Or maybe… Just maybe, his change slogan was meant to be… “When in the White House, I will CHANGE my thinking and not follow through with much of anything I PROMISED in my campaign”…

…

#19

hahaha was it funny? C’mon, I’m serious, send me a pdf of the paper you publish

#20

also, what’s with you guys busting Obama’s balls about change when he isn’t even the president yet? WTF is up with that? Give the guy a chance to actually get in office and see what he does, and don’t be so impatient. It ain’t going to happen overnight. In my book, anything other than George fucking Bush has got to be better CHANGE, right? -or would you guys prefer 4 more years of Bush’s bullshit? If anything, the white house stereo will be changed from the country channel to the smooth jazz station. Just small little change like that makes me feel a little better about things.

Also, people didn’t elect George Bush because they were tired of Bill Clinton, he had served up his term length. People weren’t tired of his administration either, because the guy that George Bush beat actually received more total individual votes. If only Al Gore had one ounce of charisma & personality, and he wasn’t such a fucking robot, he would’ve destroyed Karl Rove and George Bush and we’d never be in this bullshit financial disaster that we purge money in helping rebuild what we destroyed in order to ‘help’ people who hate us. Everybody gets poor or dies while oil corps, defense corps, and overseas construction corps get fatter pockets.