Just wondering why CK5 is on Bieber tour and not hitting the road with Trey?
Bieber rules dude, that’s why!!!
I think that’s pretty much a no brainer.
Kuroda is a lighting designer. Bieber has more lights and more budget than TAB could ever dream of having. Regardless of what you think of Bieber’s music, the production value is insane. And, for an artist like CK, the opportunity to light such a spectacular show has got to be a much more exciting prospect than a fairly low-budget, small theater tour.
TAB doesn’t need CK5. Bieber does.
I could not bring myself to call a Bieber concert a “spectacular show”…neither could I see Kuroda, who thrives on the complexities of Phish compositions, getting very excited about doing a Bieber show per say
however, I could see him getting excited over the idea of scaring the shit out of him and audience (or however he put it during the All Good tutorial)…and the money, of course
has he ever done lights for TAB?
^You clearly aren’t in the business of concert production. 
Have you seen a bieber show?
Production value has nothing to do with musical taste. If you are an artist, you go where you are given the best tools and the biggest challenges.
TAB, simply put, is a boring show to light and, frankly, beneath CK5-- and that has nothing to do with the music. Bieber’s show is far better suited for someone of Chris Kuroda’s caliber.
CK5 did some face melting for GRAB.
And heck, he already made the Bieber sick and dizzy.
Yeah, I was thinking about it that way with my first statement…however I do stand by my assumption that Kuroda wouldn’t find the music all that exciting to light, but that also comes with a lot of assumptions about Bieber’s music that I feel safe assuming, basically I would guess from a music-to-lighting standpoint Kuroda is very underwhelmed…but that’s where the dolla dollas come in
Bieber has set music and it is poppy. Should be fun, and relatively easy.
Trey lights never thrilled me even with Kuroda.
That video of JB puking is great.
I disagree. I mean, sure money has something to do with it-- the guy is a creative genius and deserves good pay-- not to mention the fact that a bigger budget means more toys to play with and, ultimately, more fun.
But I’m quite certain that, even from a music-to-lighting standpoint, a show like Bieber’s, Madonna’s, Gaga’s, Britney’s, etc… is not at all underwhelming for an LD. Orchestrated shows are often more fun and more challenging for an artist than improvisational ones-- especially when you have lit those particular improvisations a million times over 3 decades. Bieber has drum beats, guitar riffs, bass bombs and cymbal crashes just like any other music… he also has choreography and lots of spectacle on stage. If Kuroda is underwhelmed with the show, he’s not putting in any effort-- and I seriously doubt Kuroda would approach a job that way.
The audio on this vid is useless, you can’t hear the music so the whole music-to-lighting question will have to wait… but go ahead and mute your speakers and enjoy the spectacle…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqIMAlIWJZc[/youtube]
That seems to be the “above the GA floor” lighting I saw at MSG plus some. Neat!
you keep saying this, but don’t you think CK5 can have exactly what he wants when he wants it to light Phish as he pleases? I really doubt that he is dying for new toys that he can’t have for Phish, but I’m not saying the budgets are comparable…but it’s kinda like saying just because Trey only uses one guitar on stage he doesn’t have the budget to be changing guitars between every song, right?
If CK5 wanted to use that rig with the hybrid laser/lights I’m sure he could for Phish…but that’s the main reason I see for his endeavor in this now- trying new lights that don’t work for a Phish show
Kuroda usually lights TAB shows, to answer Levi’s question. And selfishly, I think that’s where he belongs! And as far as running lights goes, doing them improvisationally (new word) is so much more fun!
Thanks, Glenn. That’s exactly what I was trying to express. Not sure how else to say it.
I was mainly talking in terms of budget, it sounds like this dispute has more to do with agreeing together…that’s why I came to the conclusion after watching that vid that he’s most likely doing Bieb’s lights to get to use things that wouldn’t work with Phish, so basically what you said is what I was getting at…being able to play with toys not because Phish can’t afford it or it isn’t in the budget, but because they wouldn’t work with Phish if for nothing else just what the fans are used to seeing
and L.E.D. lights? seems like I saw that somewhere this summer for a stint
I thought we were talking about TAB? When did Kuroda ever say he’d choose Bieber over Phish?
dude what are you talking about? are you on the pot? 
I just watched the Freaks and Geeks episode of Lindsay smoking for the first time, it was portrayed like an acid trip 
Read the thread man. We started talking about TAB budgets vs. Bieber budgets and lighting TAB shows vs. bieber shows and then all of a sudden you started talking about Phish budgets. Phish and TAB are not the same band and if the thread was “Who’s doing lights on Phish Tour” because Kuroda was ditching Phish for Bieber, I would be just a perplexed as you are. But the fact that Kuroda chose Bieber over TAB is not perplexing to me in the slightest.
It just troubles me that you give no credit to the man as an independent lighting designer (rather than just a 5th member of Phish) and disregard the fact that he might want to branch out. But it’s all good, dude. I get it. You love all things Phish and you think Bieber is stupid and you want to believe that Kuroda feels the same. Point taken.
And Freaks and Geeks is a fucking masterpiece, for the record.